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| History is great, it can never be changed, but you see the future is yours to shape, ask yourself...who is at the potters wheel?
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| Apparently it's only "your year" if you win the Grand Final.
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| Quote: Wire Yed "History is great, it can never be changed, but you see the future is yours to shape, ask yourself...who is at the potters wheel?'"
a Wheeler!
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| Quote: TF and the wire "Apparently it's only "your year" if you win the Grand Final.'"
Unfortunately that song will stick with is because win it or not..for the last 6 years we've made our own bed.
Since we flashed the cash from Morley onwards we've given a statement and completely bummed it in the GF and play offs.
But don't get me wrong, I'd listen to the same always your year for another 6 years if I had a choice between a GF or another 3 CC wins.
Wembley always for me.
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| Quote: sally cinnamon "Nobody bottled it, you're just being ridiculous.
We lost a game that was decided on fractions and could have gone either way, playing away from home against the defending double winners and likely champions.
Who bottled it when we were getting panned in the first half and had none of the ball and had to defend all half, and we ended up going in only narrowly behind?
Who bottled it when we lost the lead in the second half after being well on top and then pulled it back level?
Who bottled it when we had to go to Cas away, the form team of the year?
Who bottled it when we were 18-0 down at half time against Widnes?
Who bottled it when we had a crap start to the season, and the whole team and coaching staff was under pressure, and everyone was saying we were leaderless and rudderless?
Who bottled it when we lost Briers, Hodgson, Morley and Carvell, four of our greatest all time Wire players, all in one go, and had to replace what they gave us?
Chris Hill stood with having to shoulder the burden of two legendary props retiring and take on our main go forward role, did he bottle it?
Chris Bridge had to step up and be our key player after Briers had gone, did he bottle it?
Matty Russell got a knock that would have had anyone on this forum signed off work for about 6 weeks, how did he play in the biggest game of his life, did he bottle it?
Roy Asotasi has been called our worst ever signing, did he bottle it?
Lets hear who actually bottles it at Warrington Wolves and take some proper action.
Maybe a proper owner, like Koukash, would not have put up with a team bottling it. He would have gone and told the fans how he felt on Twitter and guaranteed we won't bottle it next season. Simon Moran won't do that, he will bottle it.
Koukash would have had TS's P45 ready for him tomorrow morning, as we've bottled it too many times.
I'm hoping Simon Moran will bottle that decision too.'"
Almost Churchillian, and far better than your usual efforts.
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| In the early days of the campaign, when we floundering somewhat, I suggested that the club hadn't managed the transition from being a team reliant on it's older players to one reliant on younger players too well. My view was that the club had been caught with it's pants down a little and been forced to blood too many, too young, too soon.
Was I wrong? The development of B.Evans, R.Evans and Laithwaite plus the development of England suggests I may have been, but what is certain is that our transitional period is going to continue in 2015, and beyond, and the club need to plan on that basis, [inow[/i.
Westwood, J.Monas, Grix, Asotasi, Higham, Bridge & Atkins are, in varying degrees, now at or beyond their peak and the sands of time are trickling ever faster through the hourglass. We need to start planning exit strategies for these immediately and bringing the next Ben Evans, James Laithwaite into the setup immediately.
2014 wasn't our transitional season. It was the beginning of our transition, and we've made mistakes, we've recorded notable successes and we need to learn from it and continue to move forward apace.
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| Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "
Still doesn't beat your record , 1955 and counting ..
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| Quote: morrisseyisawire "In the early days of the campaign, when we floundering somewhat, I suggested that the club hadn't managed the transition from being a team reliant on it's older players to one reliant on younger players too well. My view was that the club had been caught with it's pants down a little and been forced to blood too many, too young, too soon.
Was I wrong? The development of B.Evans, R.Evans and Laithwaite plus the development of England suggests I may have been, but what is certain is that our transitional period is going to continue in 2015, and beyond, and the club need to plan on that basis, [inow[/i.
Westwood, J.Monas, Grix, Asotasi, Higham, Bridge & Atkins are, in varying degrees, now at or beyond their peak and the sands of time are trickling ever faster through the hourglass. We need to start planning exit strategies for these immediately and bringing the next Ben Evans, James Laithwaite into the setup immediately.
2014 wasn't our transitional season. It was the beginning of our transition, and we've made mistakes, we've recorded notable successes and we need to learn from it and continue to move forward apace.'"
All successful clubs are constantly going through transition but it only gets talked about as "transitional season" when there's a dip in form from the previous one. Ideally you want to avoid the situation where multiple key players retire at once but sometimes it can't be helped because you've had a generation of key players all around the same age and you don't want to move them all out prematurely because they are still class acts, and if you do it will get resentment. See the Chelsea situation where they brought in Andre Villas-Boas to manage the transition and move players on, he quickly got the senior players backs up and they rebelled against him because they felt they still had success in them, and they were right, under Di Matteo they won the Champions League. Now Mourinho has managed that actual transition perfectly by steadily bringing players in so the old guard can leave more on their terms and look how they are flying. It's not as easy in rugby league because of the salary cap, so you need to manage it through new signings coming in at the point they are exactly needed and not before. Hence Daryl Clark coming now rather than last season - it wouldn't have been a good use of salary cap to have Clark competing with Higham as second fiddle to Monaghan.
The other point with the age of players is 'building for the future' is pointless unless you are actually maintaining a level of success now: you will just develop players to be signed by other clubs, as happened to Arsenal for much of the past 6 or 7 years. If we brought through a golden crop of youngsters but were not in the mix for trophies then when their contracts were up we would face a real struggle holding off the NRL or Leeds/Wigan, just like we couldn't stop Harris and Sculthorpe leaving. So sometimes some older players are useful signings too, if you don't have a quality youngster available in a key position for the here and now, signing a quality 30 year old might give you 2 years of certainty and the situation may be different 2 years down the line, whereas going with an unknown quantity might leave you with a substandard player and no hiding place.
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| Quote: No1 Saint "Still doesn't beat your record , 1955 and counting ..'"
You'll be the first in the queue then, to congratulate the Wire when they do finally win another championship?
Oh, sorry, that's not the way we do things in England, we prefer hubris.
Compare and contrast with how the pundits greeted Rabittohs first win in 43 years this morning.
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| Quote: Asgardian13 "You'll be the first in the queue then, to congratulate the Wire when they do finally win another championship?
Oh, sorry, that's not the way we do things in England, we prefer hubris.
Compare and contrast with how the pundits greeted Rabittohs first win in 43 years this morning.'"
Id've been cheering you on next week if you'd have won on Friday
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| Quote: Pieman "Id've been cheering you on next week if you'd have won on Friday'"
According to your board your lot are planning to bring a banner to our place to poke fun next season.
So I doubt any Wiganer would cheer us on.
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| Yes, a nice anniversary banner, how very kind of them
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| Quote: Wire Yed "Yes, a nice anniversary banner, how very kind of them
Indeed and they say other clubs are obsessed with them..
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| We should be flattered I guess
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| Quote: MikeyWire "According to your board your lot are planning to bring a banner to our place to poke fun next season.
So I doubt any Wiganer would cheer us on.'"
against saints???
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