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| I consider being reserve coach at Wire a bigger job than a head coach at a club with no clout.
A bit like Harris at Wigan.
I'm quite sure he could have taken a number of jobs on at the foot of the table but he ain't as daft as Agar looks.
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| IF this is true, I really fear for you.... you'll be "raising us bar" sometime soon.
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| Whilst my personal choice would have been Justin Morgan (I'm presuming this will be Smith's last year) I'm willing to give him a go. How many people said Shaun Wane would be a disaster for Wigan?
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| Agar was a disaster at Hull.
The four seasons before he took over saw us finish 3rd, 5th, 2nd and 4th. In his four seasons we finished 11th, 12th, 8th and 6th. We never won a play off game under Agar (played two, lost two). We went three seasons without beating a Super League team in the Challenge Cup. Our record against Leeds/Saints/Wigan/Warrington/Huddersfield was played 38, won 6, drawn 1, lost 31. That included losing all ten games against Leeds.
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| Quote: ComeOnYouUll "Agar was a disaster at Hull.
The four seasons before he took over saw us finish 3rd, 5th, 2nd and 4th. In his four seasons we finished 11th, 12th, 8th and 6th. We never won a play off game under Agar (played two, lost two). We went three seasons without beating a Super League team in the Challenge Cup. Our record against Leeds/Saints/Wigan/Warrington/Huddersfield was played 38, won 6, drawn 1, lost 31. That included losing all ten games against Leeds.'"
You hardly came on leaps and bounds under Gentle, who will go down in the history books for presiding over the worst play off and Challenge Cup final performances in living memory. Then there are already plenty of calls for Radford's head. The problems at Hull FC go far deeper than the Head Coach.
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| Quote: Ganson's Optician "You hardly came on leaps and bounds under Gentle, who will go down in the history books for presiding over the worst play off and Challenge Cup final performances in living memory. Then there are already plenty of calls for Radford's head. The problems at Hull FC go far deeper than the Head Coach.'"
Thats what they said about Warrington when Lowes left. "It's not a new coach Warrington need its a new team."
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| Quote: Ganson's Optician "You hardly came on leaps and bounds under Gentle, who will go down in the history books for presiding over the worst play off and Challenge Cup final performances in living memory. Then there are already plenty of calls for Radford's head. The problems at Hull FC go far deeper than the Head Coach.'"
True but Agar was particularly awful as Wakefield have discovered.
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| I can't beleive what I'm reading.
Do you really want to entrust the development, the defining years of the Warrington careers of the superb bedrock of talent that is Currie, Laithwaite, Evans x 2 to a man with no proven pedigree?
Do you really want the man tasked with continuing Warrington's recent glorious history to be a man who is to success what Roy Asotasi is to hard yards?
Do you really want the man at the helm of one of the most gloriously entertaining and successful teams of the last five years to be a man with an unproven track record, who wasn't good enough for two lesser teams and has no pedigree of cup or league success?
You do? Appoint Agar in any capacity whatsoever, and wait for the sickening feeling of deja vu. I, on the other hand, believe we are amongst the best, and the best stay at the top by continual improvement.
We dont have to accept second best any longer.
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| If a coach isn't included in a cap then why have a sub standard coach?
Absolutely no reason why we can't approach the Aussies, it's one of the few areas Wire can actually compete in.
Agar YOU'RE NOT WELCOME
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| ...or have two coaches.
It worked for the Pies.
Think they went to Wembley with them.
Can't quite remember, twaz a while back now.
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| anyways, I'd rather have an ozzy coaching us than a Yorkshireman.
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| Quote: rubber duckie "anyways, I'd rather have an ozzy coaching us than a Yorkshireman.'"
Don't fancy Darryl Powell then?
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| Yeah of course. I've been on a bit of a Warrington is a Lancashire town campaign this week on another thread so I didn't want to come across as a total hypocrite.
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| Hopefully Reece Lyne and Danny Washbrook to follow!
If he does end up at Wire he may surprise us all and do well given the better quality of players they have, but on past evidence he will take you backwards. He is very knowledgeable about the game but his methods are truly bizarre and it won’t be long before you start finding players out of position, woeful edge defence and sheer baffling uses of the interchange bench. I was talking to a Wire fan at the recent game between the two who was laughing about the fact that Agar was playing Mathers out on the wing.
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| Here's the plan.
Smith last time he signed a contract extension would not be drawn on the matter by the press and left it late to resign. It's a carbon copy again, Smith will stay at Wire as Director of rugby and coaching.
Agar resigns from a club mid term walking away from £100,000!? Bet your life he's coming to Warrington as a coach.
Monas said very openly he wants to stay at Wire in a coaching capacity...how could we refuse his services after his committal to Warrington. He'll be a coach too.
So in balance we have Marshall and Poaching in their position, man for man Agar and Monas would be seen as an improvement on the coaching side.
So I'm afraid Marshall and Poaching with be looking for another club.
If it smells like custard it's most probably custard.
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