In understand the 'get behind the team'/14th man argument at games... although personally I can't stand the average happy clapping fan... but surely critique is what we're all here for. A forum without honest discussing the merits of players would be a place for idiots.

This was never going to be a good signing, he's been poor in the NRL for some time and I believe he didn't make the Samoa World Cup final squad.

I was made up we didn't go for him.

I better answer this one then. I have never boo'd the team off and I've never shouted criticism of a player. I've coached loads of teams and criticised lots of players whilst training but when on the field or coming off I've tried to be positive. Bit of a saint ... I suppose. On this board I have criticised the odd player but not repetitively like many do. I would never criticise someone's character. It's the constant getting onto individuals backs that I find unhelpful. I hate the idea that "I pay my money so I can say what I like" ... even if it's rubbish.
If you boo your own players you need your head examining.

Well personally, I don't get invited to Wires training sessions so the only place I can criticise is on the terraces, or here.

Shocking AGAIN, seriously seriously bad.

Roy's admitted the transition is harder than he thought and the game significantly different to that in Oz.
So - even though I have criticized him - the fact he recognises where he is currently is a good starting point.
In my view tonight against Leeds he was one of our poorer players (if not the poorest), but I do expect him to improve significantly over the year and to be in the the team on merit - which arguably he is lucky to be so at the moment.

Fookin 'ell

poor again tonight. Not fit to lace hilly's boots at the moment...and England is starting to make him look ordinary as well.

You could argue he looked genuinely fired up tonight, unfortunately he seemed to be even worse for it. The good news is that if his heart is in it, he will get better and we need him to.

I know I bang on about this and I know people say get behind the team and I know it's his first season in a new league but come on....

......defend him if you dare.

He looks amateur and not like a Whitehaven amateur or even a Wizards amateur, he looks under 18's Crosfields amateur and even with that I feel I'm doing the Crosfields lads a disservice.

If you took all the local open age amateur team and picked out the best prop in all of them combined I bet he'd do a better job, and I'm being deadly serious.
And he'd play as though his very life depended on it.

Reading between the lines here, I don't think yed rates him.

I can understand Asotasi struggling with the offloading game, maybe even running lines etc. new structures can be hard to get used to, but you don't have to learn "effort"...!!

The bloke cant bend his back to pick up a ball, He is lazy, he had his back turned in one defensive line and it nearly cost us. He played the last 7 minutes of the first half .......seven minutes that's a joke......to me it says Tony smith has no confidence in the bloke, he did 20 minutes in the second and was dragged off after a mistake...

The worry for me is the pressure we are putting on Chris hill by making him play more minutes than he should, while we all ourselves praying Asotasi doesnt have to come on.

Another of the positives however tonight was Anthony England, he looks finally to be showing something. he has the occasional brain fart, like flying out of the defensive line, but at least he's showing some enthusiasm and was a handful for Leeds.

Asotasi is not for me thank you....

Am with Yed on this one.When you seen what the likes of Hill + co did tonight the man is just stealing money.Would love to be proved wrong but I just cannot see him getting any better.

Hill honestly wouldn't look out of place playing origin

I made a comparison during the game which I will stand by. Tonight he resembled something along the lines of when you're wandering through the park and inadvertently walk through kids playing football and the ball comes towards you (I've too left feet).

There was one occasion in the second half where he didn't get back into the line or even turn to face Leeds until after the second tackle. The other 13 were back in seconds. It's just embarrassing on his behalf and a sad end to a seasoned and well respected career. If you don't want to be here, just hold your hands up and go. Moving to the other side of the world isn't for everyone, I know I couldn't go off to Sydney.