Oh dear!

Consider yourself well & truly spanked by a second rate club then this afternoon....how embarrassing

Do take your head from up your . The World Club Challenge is not a barometer of size of club. Even Jamie Peacock himself said the Aussies have only started taking it half-seriously in the last four years and in his first few games in them he said the Aussies were here for a bit of a pre-season friendly on a bit of a pre-season holiday. Even if the Aussies did take it more seriously, it's still only a pre-season exhibition match for them.

Eleven clubs have won more real Championship titles than you, and considering you seem to think Widnes are up there with the other clubs in your list, unfortunately you aren't above us in that list. And did all those clubs throughout the history of the game get a chance to play a World Club Challenge? Did the great Huddersfield, Salford, Wire, either Hull side, or Oldham teams of the past get that chance? So just because you had a good team for one particular coincidental year that saw you play in one, you think that takes you into a different class of club as all of those?

Also four clubs have won more Challenge Cups than you, and one of them clubs is us.

Even if I give you the WCC that would only bring you equal in major trophies won with us. We even won more JohnPlayer/Regal Trophy titles than you and won more Lancashire League titles and Lancashire Cups than you. We've never been relegated and you've never got near our rugby league crowd records.

So if that one game in the late 1980s makes all that mean nowt, makes you a name up there with the others in your list and makes us a second rate club then I do apologise and I bow down to the mighty Widnes............pfft, haha!

And when was the last time you won anything apart from the Wooden Spoon or The Northern Rail Mickey-Mouse Trophy ?

Now you have to play some real teams I'm really looking forward to you dropping back down the table and getting into that relegation dog-fight i'll love watching you in.

What a complete mug you are.

Its a shame WidnesJohn doesn't post in the widnes forum.. with 22 against his name, he could well be top poster.

I'm not saying there isnt much activity in there, but Ive just been in there to see what the reaction was to yesterdays game and the last thread was about Davies signing from Union.

They have their own forum,TIW which in fairness sees a lot more activity than ours.

It's because all the Widnes fans are living in 1989 and the internet was not freely available back then as it is now.

Be fair wireiii.
This have moved on.
They are now using dial up.

Well, well, Widnes John, or 1979 or whatever, we see your true colours now. Recall your early reference to 'mediocrity' and ask to which of the two Cheshire teams this epithet applies in this millennium? Wire fans enjoy our ancient history, too, it's just that we have a recent past, present and future to occupy our minds.

The past was yours but the future's mine...

I can drive a coach and horses through that post.

So the Aussies don't take the WCC serious? Would you be saying that had you beaten Wigan in the GF (instead of getting embarrassed) and gone on to beat Sydney Roosters?

The fact is it's down on record forever that Widnes have been World Club Champions. Warrington haven't and your second rate club never will.

Oh, and when we won it it was played in October. The Aussies didn't use it as 'a bit of a holiday' as you claim. In any case who comes from Australia for a 'holiday' in England in October or February???

And we beat a full strength Canberra Raiders team including Mal Meninga. Arguably the greatest RL player of all time.

And then you mention the great 'Huddersfield, Salford, Wire, either Hull side, or Oldham teams of the past'. So, in your dopey eyes, what they were winning in the 50s 60s etc is relevant but what we did in the late 80s isn't relevant? What a very strange viewpoint.

This coach and horses thing is catching. I can drive a whole fleet of them through this post. It was a long time ago and done by a completely different Widnes Club. Yes, it was a superb side, but it was also a team put together with money that Widnes didn't really have and ultimately resulted in their financial demise. It was also a very long time ago and has absolutely no relevence to the present
You also have the sheer stupidity to call us a second rate Club. Well, we actually have our own stadium, it wasn't sold to the council to help clear our debts, and we actually manage to make money from it from outside the game itself. If that's a second rate Club, then I'm quite pleased about it.

If yesterday was back to mediocrity, then I really fear for Widnes.

Widnes though