just like the last one?

It's mad that Wire fans before Smith never even went on about winning the league, Steveo would big us up but not even our fans though we'd ever do anything. This song as basically stuck because of him.

the copper pushed down the stairs was a female and hit with a cheap shot by a scum bag.
the stewards involved were getting cheap shots also but the ott reaction of the bouncer uppercuting the fan imo escalated the incident further
lessons learnt for all here

There is now a video on a popular video sharing site (linked in the VT section) probably posted by a Widnes fan to "condemn" the steward. I have made the point there that the video does NOT appear to show the steward laying uppercuts to the head of the "supporter" as has been claimed elsewhere. It appears to show blows directed at the arms. Not saying that this is right either, just that there will be many views (opinions and also footage) of the incident, so lets leave it for Warrington/Cheshire Police to decide on what action, if any, is to be taken.

Looks to me he is punching him in the arm which is grabbed on to a crush barrier. Which is use to give a dead arm and to let the grip loose of the crash barrier.

If that is the case then he hasn't got a problem. You have to loosen his grip somehow and there isn't an easy way to do it.

Not a single person who has ever done control and restraint techniques would lessen a persons grip by reigning blows to a persons body part. That is thuggery of the highest order. The steward should IMO face criminal procedings over that incident.

I remember seeing a youtube video that went viral of police using 'excessive force' it looked horrible on youtube, then that very same incident was part of one of the police programmes we see, in that we saw the whole picture and then it all made sense and you realised that the force used was not excessive at all in fact I was surprised the copper was so restrained. It's amazing how different you'll see an incident when you understand every aspect of all the action taken.

I think you make a great point about the amount of late night kick off's now...Not sure about anyone else but whenever i have seen trouble at games the majority have been at night games where people decide to take the day off work and spend the day on the drink..!

Every club needs to take these recent incidents of disorder seriously as its beginning to creep back in and we need to stamp down hard on it before we lose our family game to the thugs..!

Not been much coverage of these incidents in the national press. When there's trouble in wendyball its on the back and front pages but at RL apparently its not newsworthy.

Certainly have. Got a standard, computer-generated reply thanking me and saying they don't respond to those kind of information emails but will be looking into it.

Really? You tell me how to do it then.

And if the Widnes fans involved hadn't been acting like feral idiots the steward would never have been in that position...

Rodney King !

The press/media used the last 2 minutes of video footage to condemn the police' action in beating him .... the jury acquitted the police after watching the full 15 minutes of footage, including what happened in the 13 minutes leading up to the police drawing their batons!

So on one thread you are condemning the actions of a "thug" in Gareth Hock, yet in this thread you are condoning police brutality by 4 LAPD "thugs".

Jeez, make your mind up.