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| Who says he isn’t?
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| Quote: BrianBradyHandOff "Salford a historic club ? Give us a break. They haven't won a thing in my long lifetime...They have a fan base only a little bigger than Broncos. In fact when they came to the HJ the last time they could have fitted in one taxi....There are more clubs playing lower down with far more history than Salford.'"
I know that it is hard to be fair to the likes of Stanley, but, to be fair Salford's wait for the Championship is less than ours without wishing to get our 'proverbials' in a twist.
Apart from the 30's, they as you well know given your user name, or maybe not given your post, had a decent run in the early 70's.
Sure they have had their ups and downs and the crowds are low for such a large place, but, the same can be said for other historic clubs. Widnes are just getting their act together again and what hope is there for the Oldhams and Swinton's of this world in the current set up?
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| Quote: John Gilbert Reds "Wow, is that the only positive comment you could make on the subject of Rugby League having a representative who loves the sport at Royal Ascot.
Idiot.'"
Erm, it wasn't a positive comment. HTH.
Maurice Lindsay used to be at Royal Ascot every year, you know.
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| Quote: Stanley30 "Who says he isn’t?'"
He signed an extension to his contract three weeks ago.
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| I've been abroad without the interweb so apologies in advance but signed an extension 3 weeks ago ?
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| Quote: Paul2812 "I've been abroad without the interweb so apologies in advance but signed an extension 3 weeks ago ?'"
Have a look on the Wire website, he is now contracted to 2016. All done fairly quietly.
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| Quote: Stanley30 "I see there are some very short memories on this board. I remember not too long ago Wire being continuously a lower team in the division who hadn’t won anything for ages. Your sugar Daddy turns up and pumps millions in you and now your where you are. Must be nice sat in your ivory tower looking down but don’t forget that we all remember what you were so a bit of humility and less of the bashing because it will only come back to bit you on the Ar$e. If we get to where we want to be then I certainly won’t start sprout drivel about the lower teams and how , should they fold, no one would be bothered!'"
when was this we were continuosly a lower team in the division....?
I started watching wires in 1979. The following year we won the JPS trophy and the Lancashire Cup, and were runners up in the League. (salford Were relegated btw).
after a barren 1981-82 season finishing plum middle table, We then won another Lancashire Cup in 1982-83 but didnt fair so well in the league. The following year we did better finishing third but no more silverware. But as a result of this "lowly finish" we sacked Kevin Ashcroft. unfortunately Reggie Bowden had us finish in the lower half of the year the following season. So i'll give you that one...
However the following year was something to behold, long before Simon Moran Had made his first Million we recruited (and not from salford either) Les Boyd, Brian Johnson, Alan Rathbone, Kevin Tamamti and Phil BLake. to Add to the recruitment of Andy Gregory half way through the previous season. and without wishing to list any more honours we DID win more Trophies and DID appear in Many Finals And Semi Finals and often losing to the Greatest Wigan side ever but also having one of the best records against them too.....we went to Wembley in 1990, and in 94 we finished the League joint top on points with Wigan And Bradford only to lose out on goal difference. 1995 was the last final we were in pre Morans Money but thats not to say we were miles away... Langer and co for a while had the great Bradford side on the ropes in the challenge cup semi in 2000.
to try and Label Warrington as crap club Pre Moran is plain stupid, and is probably why Wire fans have a pop at Salford if thats the kind of view its fans are churning out.
incidently throughout the above timeline Salford Won chuff all and were up and down the leagues like a yoyo but Leigh and Halifax won the League.... its not hard to see why many fans of a certain age view clubs currently in the Championship as more historic and Bigger than Salford...
I'd rather you survive than be wound up and I'd rather you have Koukash than someone with no ambition but the blokes a tit and He alone is why many people are having a pop....and now his fans are adopting the same arrogant crap, in a few months time you devils will also be calling Rugby League "My sport".... its not his fecking sport at all.
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| Any sport can run in cycles in terms of success for the teams involved & i think any fan should be concerned if a rival club goes to the wall. Would we all be filled with glee if Salford went under? I would prefer to see them get the Red Devils title back from the club at Old Trafford.
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| Quote: the flying biscuit "
to try and Label Warrington as crap club Pre Moran is plain stupid, and is probably why Wire fans have a pop at Salford if thats the kind of view its fans are churning out.
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We were pretty crap in the years before Simon Moran bought us.
Trace Warrington's history starting from the 80-0 at Saints in early 1996, to Simon Moran's takeover mid 2004 and there was not a lot to shout about. But maybe you can regale me with some tales of the glorious era of Dorahy, Van de Velde, Anderson and Plange.
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| agree with sally we were absolutely woeful at times in the late 90s and early 2000s...
this was intermingled with us being a plucky mid table side that could pull out a performance, but if we're being honest we were rubbish
can't remember who it was we played the morning after the infamous t nikau BBQ but that was the worst individual display by any team i have seen in SL
so i agree with the salford speccies there are some short memories flying around here
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| Always annoys me when people say City only became good when the Sheikhs turned up.
In the decade before they were Wembley winners, won three promotions, hundred goal season under Keegan in 2001/02, four derby wins over United including 3-1 in the last one at Maine Road and 4-1 in the first at the City of Manchester stadium.
And people think City only became a top side when the Sheikhs took over, I think not.
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| Quote: sally cinnamon "We were pretty crap in the years before Simon Moran bought us.
Trace Warrington's history starting from the 80-0 at Saints in early 1996, to Simon Moran's takeover mid 2004 and there was not a lot to shout about. But maybe you can regale me with some tales of the glorious era of Dorahy, Van de Velde, Anderson and Plange.'"
Like I said I've watched Warrington since a brutal game against Bradford Northern in 1979. if you want me to get all hung up on an eight year period where we had coaches, some players, and some World class players and very often not a pot to in that we had to sell those world class players then your deluded........And Plange was in charge for three months what kind of "era" was you expecting
Have you let the club Shop know Our History started in 1996 some Jumpers already have the wrong date of 1879 they are going to have to change the 1876 ones now
I dont think I said we were a top side of that era but an Arse end team not a chance........
and Your City comparison/sarcasm was a poor effort too
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| Quote: tino "so i agree with the salford speccies there are some short memories flying around here'"
I 'm remembering a period pre Moran when were ok, and winnning stuff and competing with a top Wigan side in tight games, finals, and Semi finals.... a time When Our Chairman Shelled out on Boyd Tamati Johnson Rathbone Andy Gregory, and Phil BLake all in a short space of time.............
and considering Salford spend most of their time Laughing at Swinton who have a trophy haul much more impressive than most clubs and certainly Salfords....then what exactly does "some people have short memories mean"
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| Agree 100% with biscuit on this... a few bad years for a club with over 130 years of history hardly constitutes comparisons with a club like Salford.
All teams have had bad periods... The biggest club in English rugby, Wigan, had to break the rules to avoid relegation.
Warrington, as a club, has never been in the same bracket as Salford, that's just the way it is.
The reality is that they do not have a rich history, or a fan base.
I dont resent Koukash coming into rugby league and waving his cash around (when he finally does)... infact, i think its great for the game. I just think he may well end up wishing he had spent it on another small club. One that he has a fighting chance of making a proper club out of..... like Hull KR or St Helens.
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| don't get me wrong i'm not saying we weren't at times a decent side since i have been a fan (started going in 85) because there were some great days and even whole seasons that stick out (bearing in mind i was only 2 in 85 so some of the early days are a bit hazy!)
but its not that long since salford and us were in exactly the same boat and im thinking about 2002
they got relegated but my memory of that year is we were abysmal and i was terrified we would go down because for most of the year i thought we deserved it
since then we have had unbroken access to SL money
we got the new stadium but almost didn't... they got theirs eventually but it was put in a daft location
we got our sugar daddy 9 years ago, they have only just got theirs
what i'm saying is there is a very fine between a club getting on the upward spiral and going in the opposite direction and there are some important individual incidents that could have gone either way for us which may have made the story very different
so i think wire fans should have better grace when talking about salford because their recent history isn't so different from ours and it could quite easily have been roles reversed
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