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Quote: Rogues Gallery "On the head to head metre makers
Taking each clubs 1 - 17 (metre makers to make it simple for some) icon_ask.gif

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Does anyone else think that this headline and story wouldn't be a surprise in July...(ala Tevez and Man City....

[sizeHock returns to Wigan[/size

Gareth Hock has made a sensational return to Wigan Warriors today after a hit and miss loan spell at Widnes. Hock, who has played only 10 times for the Vikings this season, is ready to return to the DW Stadium after being shown the exit door only eight months a go. Wigan Chairman Ian Lenegan publicly slammed Hock after the second rower was accused of turning his back on the Cherry & Whites by refusing to go to training sessions or rehab after a shoulder injury. Lenegan said "A lot of water has passed under the bridge since then and we want quality players at this club. Gareth will strengthen our bid for a league and cup double". Wigan, who play Hull FC in this weekends challenge cup semi final can call upon the service of Hock as he sat out Widnes' 4th round 78-0 thrashing by Swinton Lions meaning he isn't cup tied and is eligible to be selected. Hock will also look to help the Warriors, who are currently 5th in Super League, to a strong finish and a Grand Final push.

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Quote: Fresh Prince of Chesh-air "Does anyone else think that this headline and story wouldn't be a surprise in July...(ala Tevez and Man City....

[sizeHock returns to Wigan[/size

Gareth Hock has made a sensational return to Wigan Warriors today after a hit and miss loan spell at Widnes. Hock, who has played only 10 times for the Vikings this season, is ready to return to the DW Stadium after being shown the exit door only eight months a go. Wigan Chairman Ian Lenegan publicly slammed Hock after the second rower was accused of turning his back on the Cherry & Whites by refusing to go to training sessions or rehab after a shoulder injury. Lenegan said "A lot of water has passed under the bridge since then and we want quality players at this club. Gareth will strengthen our bid for a league and cup double". Wigan, who play Hull FC in this weekends challenge cup semi final can call upon the service of Hock as he sat out Widnes' 4th round 78-0 thrashing by Swinton Lions meaning he isn't cup tied and is eligible to be selected. Hock will also look to help the Warriors, who are currently 5th in Super League, to a strong finish and a Grand Final push.'"

Can't see them being as high as 5th in july tbh.

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Quote: morleys_deckchair "here are some stats on last season, just for you Rogues, seeing as you like them so much.

Westwood Carries 243, meters 1932

Now add the penalties, which is how this discussion began.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Now add the penalties, which is how this discussion began.'"

someone said hock is a penalty machine, then YOU compared him to westwood and boasted about how he 'made three hundred metres more with the ball'.

I was then correcting you and showing Westwoods superiority with ball (and in defence)

But, if it makes you happy....

Westwood penalty's - 22 = 1.2 Penalty's per game

Hock penalty's - 24 = 0.96 Penalty's per game

So both players average 1 penalty per match

what was your point again?

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Quote: Fresh Prince of Chesh-air "Does anyone else think that this headline and story wouldn't be a surprise in July...(ala Tevez and Man City....

[sizeHock returns to Wigan[/size

Gareth Hock has made a sensational return to Wigan Warriors today after a hit and miss loan spell at Widnes. Hock, who has played only 10 times for the Vikings this season, is ready to return to the DW Stadium after being shown the exit door only eight months a go. Wigan Chairman Ian Lenegan publicly slammed Hock after the second rower was accused of turning his back on the Cherry & Whites by refusing to go to training sessions or rehab after a shoulder injury. Lenegan said "A lot of water has passed under the bridge since then and we want quality players at this club. Gareth will strengthen our bid for a league and cup double". Wigan, who play Hull FC in this weekends challenge cup semi final can call upon the service of Hock as he sat out Widnes' 4th round 78-0 thrashing by Swinton Lions meaning he isn't cup tied and is eligible to be selected. Hock will also look to help the Warriors, who are currently 5th in Super League, to a strong finish and a Grand Final push.'"

Can't see Widnes keeping Swinton to a score that low.

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Quote: Paul Youane "You said

Why feed the OAP troll ?

Hopefully the silly old fool will go strangely missing from this board when his team struggle this year.

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Even if Hock was superior, he doesn't play for Wigan anymore

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Quote: morleys_deckchair "someone said hock is a penalty machine, then YOU compared him to westwood and boasted about how he 'made three hundred metres more with the ball'.

I was then correcting you and showing Westwoods superiority with ball (and in defence)

But, if it makes you happy....

Westwood penalty's - 22

I am an appreciator of statistical analysis as anyone, but I think you may be misguided in this assistance.

Whilst penalties per game can be a reference point, I would argue penalties based on an average of tackles made would be a more accurate ratio.

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Quote: Horatio Yed "Even if Hock was superior, he doesn't play for Wigan anymore'"

...........and isn't likely to play for them again.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Now add the penalties, which is how this discussion began.'"


Quote: Rogues Gallery "

Westwood penalty's - 22

I'm a massive fan of stats, they allow the unintelligent to talk about the game of Rugby league as if they understand it... .......like the time Gareth Hock received a penalty for a punch on Ben Harrison.............one game one penalty in the world according to Rogues thats slightly better than Benny Westwood....

to normal people that watch the game with eyes and common sense and understanding Hock then got banned 5 matches for eye gouging.....that's not on a stat anywhere is it..........is it............ a050.gif c015.gif c015.gif c015.gif

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