Saint sacked....

Quote: Albion "I suppose 'decline' all depends on how you view it, for example you say that the fact that we have allowed other teams to catch up with us as we haven't kept our high standard of players IS evidence of decline, whereas I say that the fact we are still challenging for honours (possibly not the season though!) is good evidence that we are NOT in decline -it's a fact that we have made every GF since 2006 and from the top of my head possibly every semi final in the challenge cup since then - so it's a matter of how you view the situation.

McManus has quite cleverly (IMO anyway) took all the pressure and sting out of the next three fixtures as the fans will realise that we have nothing to lose going into them. If Royce was still in charge then the amount of pressure that the players would be under would be immense and lead to even more misery if we failed to perform

I'm not fishing or being intentionally demeaning of this saints team, but is that what it has become now? I appreciate getting to so many Grand Finals on the bounce is great (I wish we could get to one ) but is that really what the same team that has won the most trophies out of any one in the super league era wants now? That seems like setting the sights awfully low for such a great team. Warrington won a challenge cup and after a few games in the next season the fans expected to win the Grand Final. Has a so many year just dull that desire?

I'd also like to pint out there I have, as is implied in my quote in your sig, never stated that Saints decline was/is quick. It has certainly become apparent this season (saints usually have a slow start) and it looks like it will get worse but I think the wheels are coming off one by one (for lack of a better term) Good players left, trophies stopped coming, no new top drawer players were brought in or through academy, performances on the field are now suffering and it COULD go as far as struggling to make the playoffs and long losing streaks (although it probably won't) In fact, many saints fans are saying a CC run is your best chance for a trophy and while I don't believe that, I certainly wouldn't be surprised if this is your first final-less season this year. If that happens would you accept decline?

I would dispute McManus' judgement on the sacking. I have seen a couple of people on the saints board expecting a win in the next three game (some even 2) and that is since Royce has been sacked. I don't think that is going to happen (there is a possibility this week). But KC is a former player and is a friend of Wellens, Roby and many others, is untrained in coaching and hasn't had long with them. He will get more respect than Royce appears to have been getting this season but I would hate to see SAints fans turn on KC cause je continues the losing streak and it really isn't his fault.

I have said it before, a lot of promising coaching names will get burnt by this toxic saint team this season and maybe next.