Why are trys, goals or points irrelevant? Surely that's what the game is about. A prolific finisher or a relentless goalkicker is useful to his own team just like somebody who does the hard yards and makes a load of tackles.

At the end of the day Wigan topped the league, and Richards was a difference in what separated them from teams like us who were just behind. Look at their pack with Fielden, Coley, Riddell, Bailey, J Tomkins and so on, is that any better at getting the hard yards than Morley, Carvell, Monaghan, Westwood, Wood, Harrison etc? What about their centres, Carmont, Gleeson, are they better than Atkins, King and Bridge? Is Goulding better than Riley? Even at halfback where Sam Tomkins is one of their best players, I don't think he's better than Briers at this point in time. Wigan had something that made them special otherwise why did we not finish above them?

If the crux of the situation is about points, that immedialtely discounts non-kickers, forwards and the majority of half backs and threequarters.

The quality of Richard's performance yields points, that should be the focus of his play. I would have no issue with Tom Briscoe receiving the award as his performances merit it, regardless of his try scoring record.

I'm not saying it should be a competition of who is the top points scorer, however being a good goalkicker is something which would contribute to evaluating a players overall performance. We would have had a couple more wins, with a better goalkicker. If Chris Hicks had been our goalkicker and had a percentage similar to Richards then we might have finished on top of the league, and Hicks would have been well placed for MoS with that on top of his great finishing. Richards is a finisher in the same class as Hicks and has goalkicking, plus superb penalty kicking to touch, as part of his game as well.

I still think Morley should win it.

Agree. Richards it is then.

So taking away tries, points, goal kicking, you think Richards has performed better than Morley?

Taking away the metres and tackles, do you think Morley has performed better than Richards

Why take away meters made?

Richards 3679
Morley 2993

How about

Try assists:
Richards 11
Morley 1

Tackle busts:
Richards 74
Morley 29

Clean breaks:
Richards 25
Morley 4

Its funny how many Warrington fans object to the statue of Keiron Cunningham considering we have a statue of Brian Bevan at our ground. I'm sure Bevan was right up there with Cunningham's work rate and tackle count!

Er yes!

I dont think they object to it sally,Its just that they cannot see any likeness!

Undeniably so. To reference him solely as top try and points scorer demeans the quality of his standard of play across the season.

time will tell. as i understand it i think the players voted last weekend for MOS. I would not argue if it was Richards, Lockers, Sam T, Morley, Westwood, Graham, Monaghan. There are many derserving winners and i personally hope it is Pat but there have been many outstanding players from many clubs that have had a superb season

He's a classy player too. Always got a smile on his face.