Tries and assists combined which is what you want from your halfback, like i've said previously if you measure Tomkins on his metres and tackle busts then play him at prop. I agree with what you say to an extent, it isn't helped when numpty Wigan fans flood our board slagging off our coach and young prodigy, the natural reaction is to defend.

Well for a start there's 2 positions in the halves, and at international level you need one of them to be able to tackle well and also attack the line and make line breaks and line break assists, oh and acutally kick a 40/20 when looking at stats Leon Pryce blew them both away this season and didn't get a selection so we know its never all about the stats

But there we go again, it's drawing into a comparison when they are different (and complimentary players).

And honestly mate it's not just numpty Wigan fans, you should check out a few of the utter Wire pillocks who live to have a go on our boards, and also say they want to seem him get smashed etc.

I just wish they'd bugger off (all sides) and allow actual discussions about rugby

Absolutely mate, Myler is a class player to and i reckon over time they will make a good halfback pairing for England. And yeah we really should be supporting both, and finding a clear role for Eastmond as well as he's got fantastic ability (He'd be great at FB with Tomkins and Myler at 6 & 7)

Same old story with some of our posters on this site. Any chance to run a Warrington player down. No doubt they will quote themselves as 'realists' but when push comes to shove it's the same old stuff with just a different players name in the post.

I presume you didn't watch the challenge cup semi finals then??................where I would say they both looked totally out of their depth!!

Myler looked way out his depth playing in the quater final against us and the league game against us. He went missing.

I wouldn't class this as a fair assesment.

It's not just about 1 or 2 games, Tomkins has looked amazing in high pressure games that Myler has not even come close to playing in yet. But on the other hand Myler has looked great in a poor team with poor players around him.

they are both good young players but you have to take into consideration that tomkins has been playing with a much better team than myler

Make your mind up, have you seen him or not, I think not to be honest.

Some would say it's easier to stand out in a poor team. He was the 'go to' man for Salford so maybe this is the case, he saw alot more ball than most young players would.

I wish you would be the GO TO MAN. Go to your own Feckin forum man. I have no bother sleeping after reading your posts on here.

Why not debate the issue? It's a forum.

Its a perfectly fair assessment.

I was replying to the comment in which the guy said "in the games I have seen Tomkins and Eastmond have been a cut above"

I suggested that he hadn't watched the CC semi finals then where I thought they both looked inexperienced and lost.

But hey ho don't let that stop you having another stab at Myler!

TBH I can see quite a few people are getting fed up up with all the tedious remarks of odemwingie and Rogues Gallery. I have a feeling they will be gone from this forum very soon.