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Quote: mark_m "I thought the same thing. Would have been straight off in any amateur game.'"


The touchie couldn't have made it any clearer for Bentham, could he? I suppose he could have saidcontact send him off with the face. By the way, Phil. You clearly must send him off. Now. Red card. Out of the pocket, in Senior's face. Send him off'.

It would have been better for Senior had he carted him, I suspect the imminent ban will be worse as a result.

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Quote: RyanWire "No i am implying that if he is a prop and he makes more yards, tackles, yards per carry, offloads while missing less tackles, making more tackle busts then he can not be crap if Morley is not crap. Morley can not be very good / great and Pulutua be crap if he does all those better. It the usual case of opposition fans looking stupid by underrating players from other teams that they would be raving about if they played for us.'"


Underrating him, underrating him. Are you having a laugh. Folk wanted to see him in the SL dream team for goodness sake, pretty much on the back of 4 Tries at Castleford. His stats will be decent as he's in a side that's been largely dominant this year. I'll maintain, big games, arm wrestle, all those silly terms, I've not seen your 'Tony P' step upto the plate like others have, ie, Graham, Morley.

In Cricket, folk talk about averages, but folk normally want to interrogate the stats further. When did he get his runs, were they match winning runs, under pressure runs, or runs when his side was dominant. From what I've seen he looks quality when all is going well, and crap when it's sleeve roll up time, which is generally where the best earn their reputation.

I wouldn't swap any of Cooper, Morley or Carvell for him.

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Quote: JWP "Underrating him, underrating him. Are you having a laugh. Folk wanted to see him in the SL dream team for goodness sake, pretty much on the back of 4 Tries at Castleford. His stats will be decent as he's in a side that's been largely dominant this year. I'll maintain, big games, arm wrestle, all those silly terms, I've not seen your 'Tony P' step upto the plate like others have, ie, Graham, Morley.

In Cricket, folk talk about averages, but folk normally want to interrogate the stats further. When did he get his runs, were they match winning runs, under pressure runs, or runs when his side was dominant. From what I've seen he looks quality when all is going well, and crap when it's sleeve roll up time, which is generally where the best earn their reputation.

I wouldn't swap any of Cooper, Morley or Carvell for him.'"


Tony P is a second rower. If you look at the minutes Ali L did for Leeds, that is the ideal for Puletua too. He comes on, does the fancy stuff and goes off when his energy levels are getting low. He's now playing the majority of the games at prop, so obviously the skills have to be put on the back burner.

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Quote: JWP "Underrating him, underrating him. Are you having a laugh. .'"



no, you said he was crap therefore you are under rating him because he is far from it. If you were arguing that he was very good rather than superb, or just good rather than very good your argument would be at least credible. To say he is crap though is moronic and it is that statement that I have argued against.

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Quote: JWP "Some of the other forwards are woeful, that bloody Puletua who folk were clammering to be included in the dreamteam when he scored four tries at Castleford, he's crap. He might lack class, in fact he does lack class, but I can't help but respect him really, his desire & work rate are outstanding.'"


That Gateaux bird, saints fan will have your knackers for garters for even suggesting that Puletua isn't the best forward in the world.

IMO Puletua is just an average player.

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Quote: Geordie "And on his way here for next season if the rumours are to beleive.
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That rumour is complete rubbish and you know it.

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[color=#000000:1qsyq8gi]Wigan Warriors 2010:[/color:1qsyq8gi] [color=red:1qsyq8gi]Super League Champions League Leaders Under 20's Champions Club of The Year Floodlit 9's Winners Pat Richards: Man Of Steel Sam Tomkins: Young Player of the Year Michael Maguire: Coach of the Year[/color:1qsyq8gi] [quote="Wire_91":1qsyq8gi]its your first final in about 8 years and now you ravin and rantin about it F**k off, and ill be going old trafford tomoz cheering on the saints and ill be writing on this forum givin you loads of shi* when your drying you eyes and the wire fan will be here handing out the tissues in the thousands, thats if you do take that many fans cause now it looks like its your fans who have jumped on the band wagon now your in a final, this time last year there was only 1000 people in the jjb and now its fillin up cause youve won the league hahaha proper true supporters you are[/quote:1qsyq8gi]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_26076.jpg



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Quote: Natters "That Gateaux bird, saints fan will have your knackers for garters for even suggesting that Puletua isn't the best forward in the world.

IMO Puletua is just an average player.'"


aye, he's an average player with some of the best prop forward stats in the league despite not being a prop forward and only filling in there. In fact, he is like every other Saints player who are also average and only carried by all the world class players around them.

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Quote: Longford>Latchford via "Honestly? You think so? Did you ever see Les Boyd play in the P&B. There`s better out there than him. And also we`ve already got a pack of WINNERS. IMO don`t see what all the fuss is about with him. He shown his true colours tonight.'"


Wow your deluded.

Graham is the clear best prop forward in SL. Make more yards than anybody by a clear distance and is reigning MOS. Of course you wouldn't want him? Give over. icon_lol.gif

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Saints have no world class players, other than the man in purple

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Prior to that, I thought Smith was lucky to get away with a \fairly bad high one followed by a punch. Leeds could be booking a Coach to Red Hall on Tuesday.

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Some people on here need to get real.

Show me a good loser & I will show you a loser.

Rather have JG display than wire players laughing & joking with opposition after a defeat. ( Although not seen it much since the Gleeson's left )

JG reminded me of Les Boyd 1989 semi final @ maine rd.
Hooter goes, Les takes off shirt, heads for tunnel.
Don't remember many Wires decrying those actions!

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Quote: ALNH "Some people on here need to get real.

Show me a good loser & I will show you a loser.

Rather have JG display than wire players laughing & joking with opposition after a defeat. ( Although not seen it much since the Gleeson's left )

JG reminded me of Les Boyd 1989 semi final @ maine rd.
Hooter goes, Les takes off shirt, heads for tunnel.
Don't remember many Wires decrying those actions!'"
Absolute nonsense. Are you saying that the likes of Cunningham are losers?

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The tackle by jjb was nasty in context if it happened
to Paul Wood or anyone who has had shoulder surgery
that could finish their career the game's hard enough
as it is.

Ben Westwood got a five game ban early season for
a high shot, but this is a deliberate attempt to injure a
player and wont be anywhere near that length of ban,
sends out the wrong message.

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Quote: ALNH "Some people on here need to get real.

Show me a good loser & I will show you a loser.

Rather have JG display than wire players laughing & joking with opposition after a defeat. ( Although not seen it much since the Gleeson's left )

JG reminded me of Les Boyd 1989 semi final @ maine rd.
Hooter goes, Les takes off shirt, heads for tunnel.
Don't remember many Wires decrying those actions!
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Behave....That Was Boyd's last crack at Wembley, he'd been the best prop on the pitch, wire had been the best side right up till Lydons drop.
he was due to retire as player for ever, just a couple of games later.

even the Laughing policeman would be a bit Pi$$ed off at the final hooter of that game...

James Graham Has now exposed a very real Weakness in his game as any player worth his salt will irritate the scouse get at every opportunity. in fact the RFL should make it a new rule....

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