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"she wore, she wore, she wore a yellow gibbon" "she wore a yellow gibbon in the merry month of may" "and when i asked her why she wore a gibbon" "she said it's for the wire and it's gonna climb a tree!" INARDIS FIDELIS "If Noble is there next year I will not be renewing my season tickets mine and two grandchildren the future Wigan Suporters. How low can we get".............wigan fans ...ancient and loyal:41312.jpg



Quote: ~The Wires~ "that applies to any player leaving any club.

I'm sure Mickey Higham will be no different when we play Wigan.'"



true but to be honest.... i have a bad feeling about this, more than usual, hope i'm wrong icon_rolleyes.gif

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On the flow of players between Warrington and Wigan, was Guisset a direct transfer between the clubs or were there places in between?

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I think Guisett had been released by us, went to France to play for Brive RU, then signed for Wigan?

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Quote: slimwire66 "i think this will come back and bite us on the ass!'"


I'm thrilled to bits that he's gone. He's seemed under par and as others say, sulky too.

I can live with him biting us in the bum. In fact, I wouldn't care.

It may be that we have to take a step back before we can take two forward but I have complete faith in Tony Smith to get us there.

If there is even a grain of truth in Gleeson's alleged reputation 'away from work', this makes him a very poor role model for the young people who may look up to him and a demoralising factor for the club.

Tony Smith sent out a massive signal when he started Briers from the bench and then substituted Gleeson. Today, he's sent out an even bigger signal and I, for one, am ecstatic.

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Quote: mark_m "There hasn't been many players making the transfer from Warrington to Wigan. I am struggling to think of any.'"


Jérôme Guisset 2005

Quote: mark_m "You can have the best player in the world but when he doesn't want to be somewhere, you won't get the best out of him (Cristiano Ronaldo's early season form being the casing point). Gleesons comments & Smiths comments both indicate that Martin Gleeson wasn't looking at staying here longer than the season end, and in fact Gleesons comments insinuate that he'd been looking to move for a while, be it to the NRL etc.

I've had my say on Gleeson earlier in this thread, I don't think there's much else to say, other than to point out that Gleesons last two moves have been money orientated, and I think that tells you enough about him. He's done well for us, he hasn't enhanced his reputation but he certainly hasn't damaged it, all his wingers have scored tries and he's been a real threat, but through all that, he's never really been likeable has he ? He's never wanted to endear himself to the fans has he ? If he's attended events it's looked an effort and such.

I think Smith has another dig at him, maybe dig is the wrong word, but Smith makes his point with the Mathers announcement, about the proffesionalism that Richie brings to training, and the example that he sets to younger players etc. I think that's the key to this transfer, I really do. When Gleeson has his game head on, I don't think Smith has a problem, but something tells you that through the week, he isn't the most committed, and we've got plenty of talented youngster in our squad right now, who'll look upto people like Gleeson, and it's a pretty poor yardstick for these guys to have.

Add to the above, the work of Bastian, and before Bastian, there's some very, very talented kads going to break though in the next year or two, the Reserves & U'18s flying at present, if your going to keep bringing these guys into your setup, their going to be like sponges, and if you set them the right example, and they are introduced to the right environment then it'll be second nature to them, and their standards will be set high from the outset, and this will be passed on & on, Smith obviously felt Gleeson didn't portray the right image, didn't have the right manner of proffesionalism and has been moved on, and I'm sure that there will be others, if they don't meet the requirements, Mathers will know what to expect, and no doubt will be looking forward to it.

I'm sure Smith will use this transfer, and the revival of Lee Briers and say to the squad, here's two examples, ones a GB international, gone, because he didn't have the desire to work hard, day in day out. That could be you, I will make decisions, tough ones, look, here's the proof. Flipside, show enough desire, and look at Lee, I dropped him, he reacted by getting his head down, two vastly improved performances later, he's a big part of the side moving forward.

For two long we've been fed soundbites, like the ones Gleeson has given today. We've had them from Cull, players signing, players at forums, columns, you name it. We want actions, we want tangible, visable differences and Smith has delivered one today, whilst sounding a massively loud warning shot to anybody else thinking that he's another 'all talk, no action' kinda guy.'"


Excellent post. Saves me quite a lot of typing! icon_smile.gif

At the end of the day Smith's comments say it all. If your a Wire fan at heart and you love the club and want us to go places and win something then you will only see this as a good move. You can't have someone playing for the club whose heart isn't in it amongst other things. To put it another way its like love... you can't be with someone that doesn't love you even if they are the best thing since sliced bread! May as well end it and find someone that does. icon_lol.gif

The future is bright with TS, he is taking no rubbish off anyone and we as fans have been crying for a Wire coach to do that for yonks. He has set the standard now, slowly I think we will see improvement. This deal I feel has been on the cards since TS came as he never really wanted to play Gleeson at centre and I feel he did this to see what other options we had there. Yes he played Gleeson at 6 but that I feel was more due to the fact he was giving Briers a wake up call. No one player is bigger than the club, life goes on...

Come on the Wire!

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I'm not sure how true this was, but at the end of the World Cup, the rumour was that Gleeson didn't want to come back to Warrington. He wanted out, he was told he could have a release at the end of this season if he came back.

I heard this months ago but never posted. With whats gone on i am wondering if this has been the case?

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Quote: ComeOnYouWolves "I'm not sure how true this was, but at the end of the World Cup, the rumour was that Gleeson didn't want to come back to Warrington. He wanted out, he was told he could have a release at the end of this season if he came back.

I heard this months ago but never posted. With whats gone on i am wondering if this has been the case?'"


Common knowledge! Been referred to lots of times.

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Quote: YED79 "i love how the wigan fans are trying to goad us and are having 'a big laugh' at us when

1. He was going anyway
2. He's a shadow of the player he used to be
3. He's a sulker
4. He likes his liquid (interpret that as you like)
5. He's selfish (someone explain the concept of a winger to him)
6. We are a team on the up and you over the past couple of season are going the other way

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guess what?
we don't care!
read TS's statement "committed players only"'"


Even so, you cant deny the quality he possessed , the flick out the back, the bringing the winger in, remember how fa'afili got all his tries??

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Quote: Dean Richmond "Even so, you cant deny the quality he possessed , the flick out the back, the bringing the winger in, remember how fa'afili got all his tries??'"


Briers' chip to the corner?

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From an outsiders point of view

TS has made a massive statement to the players of Warrington..... reputations mean nothing he is in charge.

For me I think , under TS, you will go on to finally fulfill years of potential ( not this season TS has a lot of building yet to do ) ...

I was sort of hoping that you might wait another week before this happened so we could get our game out of the way, but wasn't to be.... icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

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Quote: SEB "Common knowledge! Been referred to lots of times.'"


The release bit was common knowledge, maybe shoudl have worded better in that he wasnt going to return to England from Aus if he was granted a release for next year. Ie was going to go AWOL.

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Quote: Dean Richmond "Even so, you cant deny the quality he possessed , the flick out the back, the bringing the winger in, remember how fa'afili got all his tries??'"


That was when Fa'afili was here......

how many times did he pass to Riley, Penny, Hicks etc.....not many !!

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Quote: ~The Wires~ "That was when Fa'afili was here......

how many times did he pass to Riley, Penny, Hicks etc.....not many !!'"


Quins at home last year, who remembers that when Riley was in acres of space and Gleeson didn't pass?

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Quote: WireDOA'88 "Quins at home last year, who remembers that when Riley was in acres of space and Gleeson didn't pass?'"


How could we forget!?

Wasn't that the 8-4 game?

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Quote: WireDOA'88 "Quins at home last year, who remembers that when Riley was in acres of space and Gleeson didn't pass?'"


im sure simon grix remembers that game.

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