Any truth in the rumours Sandow has played his last game for you? A few of the RL news sites on Twitter going with it now.

We'll have to wait and see, I'd love him to stay personally he was amazing at the start of the season. However Patton needs game time and we have a lot of options in the halves that Patton has to compete with in Gidley, Sandow and Ratchford

I think the silence from the club is deafening over who's coming into the club. Surely Sandows departure would have been announced with Dodds, Bailey & Cox ?

He was getting vastly overrated at the start of the year, doesn't have the kicking, passing or decision making ability against good defences to make the right plays, this was highlighted in the final and semi final. His "try" against Saints didn't gloss over his weaknesses to me.

This is the reason he was deemed a poor player in the nrl for the last few years, and why I would like to replace his wage with a quality centre or fullback.

I want a creative half with a quality kicking game, not one who goes on their own most of the time, plus he is too old and his legs have gone.

Just a word of advice, if you are going have a pop about a player please watch them play ! don't know who you are referring to but it is neither Sandow or Gidley from your description. Gidley would have been the MOM in the grand final had we won, he played through and did so much work in attack and defence. But I suppose if someone doesn't like you they will see loads of negatives and no positives.

The dream team isn't always representative of quality, and nor is the Man of Steel, but they got both pretty much bob-on this year, and that includes Kurt Gidley at stand-off. Given that some complain incessantly about an anti-Wire bias in the media, I'd have thought we'd have been delighted that one of our own was recognised by the broadcasting industry as having had an outstanding season.

But no. Let's write him off, rip him apart and do his down instead. In fact let's bin him off and spend the salary cap on Gareth O'Brien instead, we never had any issues there did we?

With the exception of Wigan and George Williams, any SL team would have had him like a shot, and been all the better for it.

...apart from the NSW and Australia selectors who thought he was good enough to be capped 12 times in each side over a period of several years.

How many of those in his last four years? How many of those weren't emergency cover when someone pulled out injured. I'm not suggesting he's literally no good, as in Jack Owens levels of poorness. Take it as a comparison to 'world class' instead.

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Missed tackle on farrell for their try, bombed a try on their line in the last few seconds running instead of passing, which was a theme throughout the game and season, no creativity. Comfortably outplayed by George Williams who wouldn't be good enough for a place in the nrl

Maybe you should watch games and remember to remove the Rose tinted glasses.

Post Sandow injury we looked best when ratchford and Patton were in the halves.. Gidley is too old and not good enough in the big games, he hasn't been good enough for 5 years.

Funny my watching of Gidley must be in line with the people who select the Dream Team, pity they didn't see your view of Gidley then we could have a public stoning and send him back in a rowing boat. The bloke has brought that professionalism to the squad and the control that we missed for many a season hence the success we have had this season. He may not have scored 3 tries per games and 10 assist but he has changed the team form last season.

Success? Lost in both competitions that are of any real note.

I don't care about the Dream Team, it doesn't mean much... I go off watching the players and their impact compared to how much of the cap their taking up, he doesn't justify it.

I'm with you I prefer it when we finish 7th and bow out of the cup early.