You're a champion team and are masters of exploiting the current playoff/league format to it's fullest - no sour grapes from me I assure you. My beef is with the RL and a preposterous system that makes us all spend big chunks of money to have to turn up and watch 27 games every year that ultimately count for absolutely jack all. You can't tell me that you think that the Super League title is decided in anything like a fair and proper manner in it's current format, surely?

not as gutted as I thought I would be, I quite happily stayed and applauded the Leeds team and Sinfield on his acceptance speech.

for us maybe it is just a case of one step at a time......maybe we do have to be in one to win one....

either way I am cheered up by many bitter Saints and Wigan fans who think What we have achieved over the last four seasons is something to laugh at...........

Well done Wires and Well done Leeds.....

You should be proud. Hill, especially was immense for you tonight.

Overall I thought the best team on the day won, just like in the cup final.

I don't particularly like the play off format as it is, however it's a much better option for the game than first past the post. To say the achievement is any less because of finishing 5th is nonsense.

Until another side from outside the top 3 gets close to winning a grand final ill struggle to believe that it isn't just an incredibly good performance from a special group of players

This pretty much sums it up for me.

I've no problem seeing Leeds win trophies with some of the players they've brought through.

All in all a great final and despite what my Saints supporting friends are saying I know any one of them would swap places with us.

If winning the Challenge cup, doing a double over Wigan, beating Saints away in a semi and losing a Grand final is a bad season.... I'll happily take it every year.

I also thought Richie Myler was outstanding for Warrington.

Great credit to those fans near the tunnel who stayed behind and gave their team a massive ovation on the way off the pitch.

What a load of rubbish, why is it unfair?

A team winning it from fifth (twice) gives the play offs credibility in my opinion. If the team that finished first won the Grand Final every year there would be no point in having it.

No one wins the Super League title in September. Credit where it's due to Leeds for proving that time and time again.

Quote Tony Soprano="Tony Soprano"What a load of rubbish, why is it unfair?'" www.loverugbyleague.com/blogpost ... um=twitter Perhaps 'unfair' is not the correct word, as all teams know how the system works. But to suggest that the current play-off system is anything short of dramatically flawed would be ridiculous. I can't imagine it is pleasant for Leeds fans to watch their team be achingly mediocre all year, even if they know they'll come good in the end.

Quote Tony Soprano="Tony Soprano"What a load of rubbish, why is it unfair?'" www.loverugbyleague.com/blogpost ... um=twitter Perhaps 'unfair' is not the correct word, as all teams know how the system works. But to suggest that the current play-off system is anything short of dramatically flawed would be ridiculous. I can't imagine it is pleasant for Leeds fans to watch their team be achingly mediocre all year, even if they know they'll come good in the end.

Winning it once from 5th could be considered slightly fortunate I guess, and playing off the back of a bit of momentum at the end of the season. Winning it twice from 5th is the sign of a truly great side.

We'd all like a few more wins in the regular season, obviously. But it does amuse me watching teams playing out of their skins to beat us during the season, because they want to knock the champions off their perch. This is what the team have to contend with week in week out and that's just one of the reasons we have our fair share of disappointments in the 27 rounds. But champion sides consistently beat the best sides in the biggest games, not in round 4 or 5 or whatever other round you care to mention.

Having said that, our run of success won't last forever and someone will beat us at Old Trafford or before sooner or later. But until then there is no denying that this is a special team.

You play the system that's put in front of you at the beginning of the campaign. Leeds played it best and Leeds won.

The system is wrong, but that's another debate. If the system had been different then Leeds (and Warrington, and Wigan) would have played it differently throughout the year.