They have looked at the facts. The fact that everytime you play a decent side who has title aspirations you get your @rses handed to you. Thats why your not serious contenders.

We're above you

Yeah thats what losing by 2 and 10 points is.

Tit.

Quote: WWRLFC78 "It seems opposition fans and the media alike are now all saying the same thing about Warrington since Friday defeat to Leeds. Are Warrington true title contenders given they have lost now to Wigan, Saints and Leeds?? Well, is everyone forgetting Wigans dismal 2nd half performance against Bradford a few weeks back? Are they also forgetting Wigans loss to, near bottom, Harlequins a week or so back? Are they also forgetting Leeds horrific start to this season which, despite their win over us, still only has them in 7th in the league? And are they also forgetting that Saints have also just lost to Salford who are 12th in the league currently? Why can Leeds, Saints and Wigan all have below par peformances, against less able sides than the ones we've been beaten by, and no-one question their title credentials? We, currently, have the joint best points scored record, the 3rd best points conceeded record and the joint best points difference record!! So why dont all you media types and opposition fans look at the league positions currently, look at the facts, and tell me who the real title contenders are at this stage!!! Half way through the season and we are 2nd, yes 2nd, in the league!! Now back off and let us get on with the business end of the season like we want to!!'" It's very hard for other side's fans, media and the general RL world to take us seriously as title contenders when even our own coach is not sure. Quote: WWRLFC78 ""We're not sure we're true contenders yet but we're enjoying the journey we're on." '" www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague ... 93928.html

Quote: WWRLFC78 "It seems opposition fans and the media alike are now all saying the same thing about Warrington since Friday defeat to Leeds. Are Warrington true title contenders given they have lost now to Wigan, Saints and Leeds?? Well, is everyone forgetting Wigans dismal 2nd half performance against Bradford a few weeks back? Are they also forgetting Wigans loss to, near bottom, Harlequins a week or so back? Are they also forgetting Leeds horrific start to this season which, despite their win over us, still only has them in 7th in the league? And are they also forgetting that Saints have also just lost to Salford who are 12th in the league currently? Why can Leeds, Saints and Wigan all have below par peformances, against less able sides than the ones we've been beaten by, and no-one question their title credentials? We, currently, have the joint best points scored record, the 3rd best points conceeded record and the joint best points difference record!! So why dont all you media types and opposition fans look at the league positions currently, look at the facts, and tell me who the real title contenders are at this stage!!! Half way through the season and we are 2nd, yes 2nd, in the league!! Now back off and let us get on with the business end of the season like we want to!!'" It's very hard for other side's fans, media and the general RL world to take us seriously as title contenders when even our own coach is not sure. Quote: WWRLFC78 ""We're not sure we're true contenders yet but we're enjoying the journey we're on." '" www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague ... 93928.html

Takes the pressure off.

Because the likes of Saints and Leeds have nothing to prove as far as title credentials go having been their, seen it and done it on several occasions. Were a team thats trying to establish ourselves as serious title contenders, its natural that the press and other pundits will continue to question our title aspirations if we havn`t beaten any of the top sides this year that will fight it out for the silverware.

Personally i still think were a little short, were not too far off but were heavily reliant on Monaghan and Briers. If we lose either of those 2 players for the big games then we won`t be the same kind of threat that were capable of when their both on the pitch, Monaghan is such an influence on the first 4 tackles then Lee Briers takes over at the back end with his craft with ball in hand and his kicking.

I feel we need more of a threat from 1 and 13 to be considered in the same mould as the Leeds and Saints sides of recent times and a bit more pace and skill in the back row, were not too far away especially with Hodgson coming next year but you just feel something is still missing to say "Yeh, were the real deal".

Were a fantastic side to watch at full strength but an injury to either Briers or Monaghan seems to take the edge off us in the big games, we need some pivot players to come through from the youngsters to give us more strength in depth especially at half back because neither Simon Grix or Vinnie Anderson is the answer if one of our half backs gets an injury.

agreed I'm happy to keep plugging along throughtout the season picking up no headlines keeping pace with Wigan waiting for them lose. The presurres on them as they are getting all the headlines on boots n all, league express etc.

Its a fair observation, we aren't title contenders.

Remember this time last year when Huddersfield were riding high, what would we have said about them being "title contenders"?

My two predictions for the rest of the season:

- Wigan won't win Super League
- Warrington will get knocked out of the playoffs by either Saints or Leeds

Everyone tries to second guess whats going to happen but you never know no one knew or thought we would win the CC last season at the same point last year, get into the top 4 and into the last 4 of the CC again and anything can happen with this team.

I agree they would.

Surely, much better for him not to mention anything about 'contending' at all in my view. It only draws attention to the subject. Steer clear of it and quietly get on with the job like Michael Maguire has done.

He must have said it to attempt to take pressure of the players and himself following the loss where we were clearly lack lustre. Yet I think the pressure remains and rightly so if you are sitting in 2nd place, with the best defence, 2nd best joint attack, and 2nd best points difference over halfway through the season and reigning CC winners.

Smith in the Sporting life article also says

I remember at the last home game last season he announced the aim was to "win both" or words to that effect.

Some mixed messages but I still trust him to deliver the goods.

Perhaps one of his pre season targets was to be in the top two at the half way point.