believe it when i see it, too many false dawns

Great news, no more dog poop alley,

Manchester.

Could be the best ground in National Leagues come 2012.

Can't help but feel the same. I remember seeing an article in the MEN from 1998 that talked about the Peel Holdings stadium/super casino project. And from 2004 when they're apparently 'weeks away' from permission to begin building a £35m, 20,000 seater stadium with shopping complex.

Like Dave says, I hope they get off the ground this time, but I just can't see it myself.

Good news for them if it goes ahead but i cant see the new ground bringing more fans like it did at other clubs... Hull FC, Wire and Wigan all seen an increse in support when moving homes, I just cant see this happaning with Salford as it's Football country.

Correct me if im wrong but aren't Hull and Wigan part of football country?

I dont think it matters, there is room for both sports in any area. How many warrington fans also attend Liverpool, Man City, Man Utd, Everton or Bolton games aswell as watching the wolves? Quite a few i'd imagine.

Your right but kind of missed my point.... Hull and Wigan was rugby country long before football came along and was very successful in the sport.

Manchester/Salford was very successful in football long before Rugby came along and there rugby team unlike the two mentioned above are'nt that great.... Yes lots of Liverpool, United, Everton fans watch Warrington but how many go to there games ?... not many, on the other hand the residents of Manchester/Salford will choose the football match over the rugby match every day of the week.

Hull, Wire and Wigan all had a 3-4 year build up to their move, they all tried various means to build up the crowds prior to leaving their old grounds. Salford never seem to do anything to increase their crowds apart from unfounded rumours about Aussie signings that have never materialised. They may have secured the Planning Permission, but Peel Holdings haven't supplied the money yet, and I doubt they ever will. I still have grave doubts about Salford.

Im sorry but that is just plain wrong, everyone knows all man utd fans come from darn sarf

I for one hope that the Salford club do get their new stadium, all they will need then is a decent coach who is allowed to bring in some decent players - SL need a competitive Salford team.

On the back of that its time that the Harlequins are replaced in SL by Paul Cullens Widnes. The Harlequins have had more lives than a cheshire cat and its still not working despite all those protestations that it is. Widnes belong in SL and I cant wait until the local derbies are back on the agenda especially if Cullen is still at the helm - extra spice and all that.

erm...you'll find its in Salford

rlMaybe this should be on the recommended books listrl

And they have won the league more recently than we have....

This is great news for RL. We need a strong team / club in Manchester / Salford and the location could not be better. I would guess that over 100k vehicles travel over Barton Bridge each day. I bet the Chill Factor gets a lot of people passing it thinking "I should give that a try" This would be similar (not the same) for Salford. It would be sort of free advertising. I heard a caller on GMR on Sunday say that the RFL should move to Salford to coincide with the BBC's move there. Salfords ground would be an ideal location for a new base for the RFL. They just need to get rid of Sims and Mcrae and start getting their act together on the pitch.

Enjoy Salford purley for the fact you can still watch a game whilst in the beer queue - same they couldnt just pick the existing ground up and move it!

Great news for Salford and the NW in general though