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funny the amount of stick we give wigan speccies for not having got behind richie mathers in his time there...

...and yet we somehow fail to get behind a homegrown lad who burst on to the scene with a flurry of tries, won a player of the month award and has now been away and won the respect of our most hated rival's fans

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Quote: tino "funny the amount of stick we give wigan speccies for not having got behind richie mathers in his time there...

...and yet we somehow fail to get behind a homegrown lad who burst on to the scene with a flurry of tries, won a player of the month award and has now been away and won the respect of our most hated rival's fans'"


And made Super league dream team.

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Quote: SPIRIT OF 74 "Yes we do need him ,Penny imo will be no better than when he left but I hope I am proved wrong,remember he hasn't been recalled because he is a better player than when he left he has been recalled because we have a lot of injuries if we didn't he would still be at Widnes and we saw the level they are at last night so it hardly takes a class player to shine in crap does it !NL1 is Pennys level SL is a step to far for him imo but as I stated earlier I hope he proves me wrong !'"


Even though his scoring record with us was 23 in 36 games but yeah your right.

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wouldnt get rid of any of them , riley has been great all season gave 100 percent in every game he plays so why should we get rid of him , hes one for the future hes only young and imo he could be one of the best wingers in super league in the future , same with penny

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Quote: SPIRIT OF 74 "Yes we do need him ,Penny imo will be no better than when he left but I hope I am proved wrong,remember he hasn't been recalled because he is a better player than when he left he has been recalled because we have a lot of injuries if we didn't he would still be at Widnes and we saw the level they are at last night so it hardly takes a class player to shine in crap does it !NL1 is Pennys level SL is a step to far for him imo but as I stated earlier I hope he proves me wrong !'"


As you have been about Briers, Bridge and countless others.

Matt King is not a centre for as long as there's a whole in your ar-se is he ?

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Quote: JWP "As you have been about Briers, Bridge and countless others.

Matt King is not a centre for as long as there's a whole in your ar-se is he ?'"
I am not wrong about Bridge or Briers ,Briers is inconsistent in his performances and is at the wrong end of his career ,Bridge is only a stop gap at centre and will probably be replaced and go back to being a back up player next season !
yes they have both improved under Smith but so have the rest of the team,and yes I still believe King is a better winger than centre thats my oppinion and I will stick to a time when I think differently .
Briers has been a good servant to the club I wish he was 10 years younger and had Tony Smith coaching him for longer he would imo if TS had coached him for longer been one of the best half-backs in the world not just super league which imo has poor half backs compared to AUS whom have better half backs in every team than we have in any team in SL ,we have a shortage of quality half backs in our league as a whole and end up bringing in Aussies who cant make the grade in aus or are at the end of their careers

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Quote: SPIRIT OF 74 "I am not wrong about Bridge or Briers ,Briers is inconsistent in his performances and is at the wrong end of his career ,Bridge is only a stop gap at centre and will probably be replaced and go back to being a back up player next season !
yes they have both improved under Smith but so have the rest of the team,and yes I still believe King is a better winger than centre thats my oppinion and I will stick to a time when I think differently .
Briers has been a good servant to the club I wish he was 10 years younger and had Tony Smith coaching him for longer he would imo if TS had coached him for longer been one of the best half-backs in the world not just super league which imo has poor half backs compared to AUS whom have better half backs in every team than we have in any team in SL ,we have a shortage of quality half backs in our league as a whole and end up bringing in Aussies who cant make the grade in aus or are at the end of their careers'"


Is Bridge made of biscuit, yes or no ? Your words. Is he a NL1 standard player, again, what you said.

Matt King isn't a centre as long as you have a whole in your ar-se, your words. He's one of the form centre in SL, who's just scored a hat-trick to take us to a challenge cup final, how on earth are you right ?

Briers has been excellent this year, under Smith anyhow. Very few of his performances have been below par, very few.

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Personally i dont think King is quick enough to be classed as a winger. His best position is centre.

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He's not exactly a classy centre, in a no cap world i'd have him on the wing, where i think you'll see him next year if the rumours on atkins are true

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Quote: Natters "Personally i dont think King is quick enough to be classed as a winger. His best position is centre.'"


He is a winger, he played there for Melbourne in the NRL and represented Austrailia there a number of times. How you can say he is not a winger is quite puzzling. He's just a big winger, who can play centre.

Look at Richards for Wigan, he started out as a centre then was put back in his natural position on the wing and has been our top try scorer for the past 3 seasons (soon 4).

King scored 3 tries in the CCS, 2 where off high balls that you would usually find a winger attempting to catch.

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Quote: p1e e8ter "He is a winger, he played there for Melbourne in the NRL and represented Austrailia there a number of times. How you can say he is not a winger is quite puzzling. He's just a big winger, who can play centre.

Look at Richards for Wigan, he started out as a centre then was put back in his natural position on the wing and has been our top try scorer for the past 3 seasons (soon 4).

King scored 3 tries in the CCS, 2 where off high balls that you would usually find a winger attempting to catch.'"


No, he didn't.

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Quote: JWP "No, he didn't.'"



Sorry kidda, but he did. A whopping 16 times out of 91 games for Melbourne, all in his first season. The fact he played his next 67 consecutive games at centre is totally irrelevant.

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Quote: getdownmonkeyman "Sorry kidda, but he did. A whopping 16 times out of 91 games for Melbourne, all in his first season. The fact he played his next 67 consecutive games at centre is totally irrelevant.'"


PMSL!!!!

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Carney - purely down to fitness. If he's assessed fit enough to get through a season then yes, he's a good hard competitor with a good attitude who will motivate other players, he's also always had a good try scoring record. Carney's the type of character we need in the camp.

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I can see Penny and Pickers going back to Widnes next year. I'd love Carney to stay! icon_cool.gif

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