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Quote: Smiffy27 "Sorry to get in the way of a the easy/obvious/simple "facts" but our kicks at goal were much more difficult and were pretty close to going over. Please don't assume that we just buy the Cas kicker and all will be rosy.

Cas moved the ball better than us.

Why hasn't QLT played in Super League? Is there anyone else playing in the Championship e.g. Sammut ... who ought to be playing with the big boys ... but has been written off as "not Super League standard".'"


That's what i think about the goalkicking. Although it looks great to see a winger going in at the corner it is more important to make the kicks easier for the kicker by scoring nearer the posts.It isn't good enough just to have a group of players who can kick goals ,a team needs a reliable goalkicker & the lack of that should have been an eye opener last night.

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Quote: runningman29 "Spot on.Would love to have known what start the bookies give Cas with them players missing.'"

Castleford + 12 was available just before kick off.

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I thought cas were the best side I've seen at our place for a long time, and they had world class players sat in the stand. I thought it was a great game, just fed up with the daft penalties, Hilly, stop putting your hands on the oppositions back as they are getting up. You know what will happen.

Livett looked out of his depth in defence, so work to be done there.

Lots of ifs and buts on both sides. Must have been great for TV.

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There were some daft penalties but these were down to poor refereeing. For example, Charnley being pinged for a high tackle when the Cas player fell into the tackle.

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Quote: silver2 "There were some daft penalties but these were down to poor refereeing. For example, Charnley being pinged for a high tackle when the Cas player fell into the tackle.'"


Or Goodwin throwing himself to the floor and dropping the ball but instead a penalty was given.

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Quote: Psychedelic Casual "Your posts are painful. The chances of a Wire v Cas GF are nowhere near zero. You’re far too partisan to be allowed to comment outside the Saints forum, you’re a bore on every topic on the VT and any other team’s forum because you’re just too bias towards Saints it makes my skin itch.

All it takes would be for Barba to get caught taking drugs, again, the week before the semi final.'"


Let’s be realistic, they are extremely slim. Cas have been comfortably beaten by every top 4 side they’ve played so far up until now. To have any chance of getting to Old Trafford they have to get a home semi or at the very least avoid Saints/Wigan. The chances of that happening are also very slim. Warrington are still a slightly above average side, your chances are extremely slim. Unless something changes Saints are big favourites right now. Of course a lot can happen between now and October.

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Quote: AS108 "Of course a lot can happen between now and October.'"


There, you said it yourself

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Quote: wire-flyer "There, you said it yourself'"


Warrington vs Castleford will not be happening in the Grand Final. Only 3 SL teams have won the GF with just 2 of those in contention this year. Saints or Wigan (if they get their act together) will win it this year because they are champion sides even if the trophies have dried up recently.

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Just looked at the kicking stats on the SL website:

Player, goals/attempts, percentage

Ratchford, 25/32, 78%

Livett, 8/12, 67%

Goodwin, 23/38, 61%

I'd say Ratchford at 78% is pretty good

In comparison with other goal kickers across the league:

Danny Richardson, 80/110, 73%

Sam Tomkins, 53/75, 71%

Mark Sneyd, 47/60, 78%

Ryan Shaw, 45/54, 83%

Kallum Watkins, 34/46, 74%

Liam Finn, 33/47, 70%

Danny Brough, 31/36, 86%

Luke Gale, 31/36, 86%

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Quote: AS108 "Or Goodwin throwing himself to the floor and dropping the ball but instead a penalty was given.'"


For milking penalties look no futher than a certain D Richardson class player but needs to eradicate that from his game Ps you are a balloon

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All this talk of "ohh, they were tough touchline kicks" is quite frankly, nonsense.
GREAT KICKERS KICK THEM, MORE OFTEN THAN NOT.
Think of Richards, McNamara, Sinfield, and our own Hodgson. Three of them were SERIAL trophy winners. Year in, year out.
You can't go into professional sport with an attitude of "let's give it a go". That's a nearly man's attitude. To win trophies, you leave no stone unturned.
As I've said before. In my time of watching, when we've been winning/sniffing around trophies, it's no coincidence that we've had a top kicker in the team
Hesford, Woods, Davies, Hodgson.
When you have Rudd, Hicks, Westwood, Jackson you fall short, as the missed kicks costs you 2 points/progression in cups.
That 92/3 season. We lost/drew several games by six points or less. We had Rudd and Jacko kicking that year. We finished eighth. We immediately sign Davies, and we finished joint top, 12 months later.

You know what I mean, 'arry.

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Ratchford said in a recent interview he didn't practice kicking goals but would start practicing if he missed a few. Get practicing Stef we need you.

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In reality Livett has kicked 9 from 12 = 75%. It's just that the touch judges made a mistake.

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Quote: wire-till-i-die "For milking penalties look no futher than a certain D Richardson class player but needs to eradicate that from his game Ps you are a balloon'"


Dear me. I said that in response to the moaning about the referee when Wire scored 2 try’s off the back of incorrect decisions. What on earth does Richardson have to do with that?

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Quote: silver2 "In reality Livett has kicked 9 from 12
In reality, the kick hit the post. Schoolboy error. It wasn't even difficult.

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