This would be mine

1. Tomkins
2. J. Monaghan
3. Carmont
4. Yeaman
5. King
6. Chase
7. Dureau
8. Graham
9. M.Monaghan (better than roby despite what the stats say)
10. Mossop
11. Hoffman
12. Manu
13. O'Loughlin

1. Wellens
2. Makinson
3. Gleeson (M)
4. Carmont
5. Charnley
6. Gaskell
7. Eastmond
8. Prescott
9. Mickey Mac
10. Cross
11. Hansen
12. Hock
13. Moore

At this moment in time, it's got to be Monaghan over Roby. Although Roby's stats are immense this year, Monaghan has led his team to more victories by controlling the play; whereas Roby has been more of a workhorse because the rest of his team are gash.

I'd take either at Wigan though.

When does the Dream Team get announced?
Mine would be:-

Tomkins
Brisco
King
Carmont
Charnley
Briers (kills me to say but imo the best 6 this year)
Dureau
Graham
Roby
Mossop
Hoffman
Westwood
O'Loughlin

I think that's a fair summary..... I cant believe I've just agreed with you..... think i will go for a lie down for 5 mins.

1.Tomkins
2. King
3. Carmont
4. Yeamen
5. Briscoe
6.Chase/Briers
7.Dereau
8. Graham
9. Monaghan
10. Carvell
11. Manu
12. Westwood/Hoffman( Injury could have affected his place)
13. O'Loughlin

That'd be mine, 2 of those 3 backrowers in I'd imagine. Also not sure on Dureau, he's oozed class and all but I still think Brough might get a shout.

I'm not a wire fan, i just think wilkin is rubbish

I know there's a danger that this may be a slightly biased viewpoint but for me, Myler has had a much for consistant season than Brough who is either sensational or turd.

Whilst he might not be 'dreamteam' material I guess this year, at his current rate of development he will be before long.

Fantastic choices, get yourself down to the bookies and ask for a price for that!!

i'd have monaghan over roby every time. stains fans just seem to think a scooter hooker is the be all and end all. his metres gained/tackles made is irrelevant, you shut roby down and you shut st helens down quite easily. give me a quality passer like monaghan who can direct traffic any day of the week

Just had a look at the stats for Saints and Warrington.

Roby has made 5000m exactly and saints have made 37970 which equates to 13% of the teams total metres.
Monaghan has made 2421 out of the 37262 which Warrington have made. This is 6%, having played for game less.

Having a match day squad of 17, you would expect very very roughly that 100/17 = 5.88% metres each player.

Ok some positions lend themselves to making more metres. To me these stats say that Roby is doing 2 peoples jobs as the rest of the team are not doing theres. There is an over reliance on Roby at St Helens where as Warrington work is shared amongst a team.....

Add in James Graham who made 3771 which is 9.93% of Saints total metres. nearly a quater of all Saints metres are made by two players!

Warrington highest metre maker is Paul Wood who has made 7% of our total metres. Which is about right when you consider 5.88% average for each player.

The work is definitely shared at Warrington.