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I wouldn't even put Joel Tomkins in the worst Warrington born team.
Anyways...I am trying to put together a team of born and Wire players really.

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Quote: wireone "Gerry Helme was from Leigh
1 Ron Ryder. A centre really but too good to leave out.
2. Mark Foster
3. Jim Challinor
4 Ronnie Duane
5 Laurie Gilfedder
6. Albert Cartwright Good scrum half played for Swinton
8. Bob Eccles
9. Austin Woolvine
10 Ally Brindle
11 Bill Major
12 Joel Tomkins
13 Harry Major.'"


I don't think Laurie Gilfedder will be eager to playing on the wing. He'll prefer Second Row or Loose Forward.

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ady spencer, non wire

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Gilfedder started life as a fullback
Billy Hayes was a classy loose forward from the sixties before signing for saints

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Quote: Uncle Rico "Correct, WO will 'our' Joel feature on the best or worst Warrington born team? Never been a fan TBH perhaps that's my P&B specs?'"

Before he went to Union he was a class player. Never been the same since. If you say he would feature in your worst wire born team you really must get your P&B specs seen to.

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Quote: rubber duckie "I wouldn't even put Joel Tomkins in the worst Warrington born team.
Anyways...I am trying to put together a team of born and Wire players really.'"

Then why didn't you say so?

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Quote: Smiffy27 "I don't think Laurie Gilfedder will be eager to playing on the wing. He'll prefer Second Row or Loose Forward.'"

I would wager that for much of his time at Warrington he played on the left wing

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Quote: wireone "I would wager that for much of his time at Warrington he played on the left wing'"


and just how much would you wager?

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Peter Cannon played in the back line.

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Wasn't Richard Varkulis once tipped to be hot property ?

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Ken Parr was an excellent back rower from the 60s. (Newton le Willows ) I think.

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Steve Hampson was also born in Newton-le-Willows. Went to Selwyn Jones High School.

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Think we can allow n-le-w whilst Colin Welland was a Wire.

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Quote: Smiffy27 "and just how much would you wager?'"

Do you ask the question because you think I am wrong or to test the strength of my conviction?
In the mid fifties the back line I remember was Frazer, Bevan, Challinor, Naughton, Gilfedder, Price, Helme,
About 1956 Price went to St Helens and Helme retired. Prior to this we signed Jack Edwards and Martin Regan and shortly after Bobby Greenough. Edwards and Greenough evolved into the half back partnership and Regan became a utility player.
The first choice back line-up was then Frazer, Bevan,Challinor, Naughton, Gilfedder, Greenough, Edwards.
Towards the end of the fifties we signed Terry O'Grady who played left wing whilst Albert Naughton went to loose forward and Gilfedder went into the centre
I would add that Gilfedder was a big, strong, speedy player who was capped as a back and a forward. When injuries necessitated he could play in the pack or in the backs as winger or centre. His distribution was not his strong point however and towards the end of his tenure at Warrington he played more in the pack.
That is my recollection of Laurie Gilfedder apart from the fact that he was and, no doubt still is, a gentleman who was very approachable. Paradoxically I sometimes think that was his weak point. In the era of the biff he was too nice.
To answer your question I am not a betting man and the word wager was not meant literally but, from memory I would say Gilfedder played as much on the left wing as in any other position.

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Quote: rubber duckie "Think we can allow n-le-w whilst Colin Welland was a Wire.'"

Even though it is officially part of St. Helens?

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