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Well from my point of view it was first of all a very exciting game. Did the better team win? It is a close call ,but our first half of 19 consecutive sets of six and our total determination to keep you out at the end when frankly you should have scored makes me think we deserved it-but only just

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Quote: catalanglais "Well from my point of view it was first of all a very exciting game. Did the better team win? It is a close call ,but our first half of 19 consecutive sets of six and our total determination to keep you out at the end when frankly you should have scored makes me think we deserved it-but only just'"


The best team won, no arguments there. We were not cheated by the ref, hampered by injury, or unlucky.

We are a team that just cannot break down a defence without kicking. Nullify that and we have nothing.

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2 debatable forward pass decisions could have led to at least i try for us if not 2. I have seen Hicks disregard blatantly forward passes & our 2 looked anything but forward to me. Add to this not penalising players for moving off the mark ,& the game could have been very different
As fez said we looked so much better on tv after the event & things will only get better. Our lighter forwards were fighting a losing battle all the way against their massive & mobile pack but did a great job . Sort the half backs out & we should see a different team.

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Quote: citywolf " Another concern is our centres. We have 2 really good wingers who could score tries for fun but we don't have the centres that do them justice. Atkins, King and Goodwin just don't look like putting a decent pass in between them.'"
Goodwin has quite a few caps for NZ and is still class act. Atkins has had a good season to date, King I believe is on his way to becoming a top centre.

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For next season we need a half back who reads the game and doesn’t panic. I think the signing of Austin was a sign that K Brown was likely to leave, Saturday underlines that.
There was a Wigan fan next to me who kept saying we were going to win even up to 5 minutes to go. I felt it was going to be “one of those games”. Certainly destroyed my theory about scoring too early!
Well done Catalans!

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Quote: Terry Griffiths "Ridiculous to suggest they lacked the desire. Some combination of Catalans being better on the day, Roberts/Brown playing as they have most of the year (i.e. with little imagine action or flair), Ratchford and Clark both being very quiet, overall every player (bar T King) playing a little below their norm. All adds up to a defeat. Life's not long enough to dwell on it - Hull will come up very quickly.'"



Yes you're right. no player starts a game without the desire to win, nobody wants to lose. But desire means more than just having that mindset, it also needs to be translated into their actions on the pitch. Putting their bodies on the line, challenging for all 50-50 balls, bending their backs to knock their opponents down, driving the ball in and making the hard yards, getting into the opponents faces and disrupting their game. These actions were largely missing on Saturday with many players simply going through the motions, hence my comment that they lacked desire. But what do I know, I only played and coached the game for over 40 years.

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Quote: Asgardian13 "Goodwin has quite a few caps for NZ and is still class act. Atkins has had a good season to date, King I believe is on his way to becoming a top centre.'"


Atkins has been a good player for us in all fairness....... but a decent winger outside him is a waste...... we really miss Ben Currie playing on that side.

Don't really see much in Toby King. Wouldn't surprise me to see him at a Leigh or Widnes within 2-3 years.

Goodwin looks dangerous but just doesn't seem to beat his opposite number too often....... would be curious to see his scoring and assist stats over the last few years.

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From the reactions of here you could be forgiven for thinking Wire lost by 30. If Ben Westwood had taken that pass you’re level and Catalans may have cracked. It was a very evenly matched final. In my opinion you lost it in the first 10mins of each half when you didn’t match the Cats intensity, that and the lack of composure at times leading to errors and forcing it in attack.

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Unfortunately, the story of several seasons ,Bullseye.

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Quote: ninearches "Unfortunately, the story of several seasons ,Bullseye.'"


Getting a decent halfback, Currie back from injury and maybe a couple of forwards and I think you're as good as anyone.

Hang in there. It's not that bad. You could be in League 1 and about to completely bottle it at the crucial part of the season icon_lol.gif

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I don't think we should be pinning hopes on Currie. When he returned he was only a shadow of his former self.

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Quote: rubber duckie "I think we've overlooked the failings of Price here.
We had the team looking far too relaxed and played the occasion not the game for the first 50 mins.
That wouldn't of happened under Tony Smith.'"


Even duckie supports a second referendum on TS now.

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Quote: sally cinnamon "Even duckie supports a second referendum on TS now.'"

I give credit where due and no one is free from the ducky quack when I think they have blame.

I lay the blame off our GF losses with TS, unwise bench selection...dropping Hodgson and stuff. However he could motivate the team right.

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What i see as our biggest undoing in many games is being slow starters ,whether first or second half. The try in the second minute was ,i believe ,our biggest undoing at Wembley , just as we took our eye off the ball against Saints at the start of the 2nd half a few weeks ago. That was our downfall in a game that we should have won. Many times, just after half time, our heads look anywhere but on the pitch in a game of rugby. 80 minute rugby would help our results no end ,just like the top teams do.
And we still had this problem when TS was in charge.

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Quote: ninearches "What i see as our biggest undoing in many games is being slow starters ,whether first or second half. The try in the second minute was ,i believe ,our biggest undoing at Wembley , just as we took our eye off the ball against Saints at the start of the 2nd half a few weeks ago. That was our downfall in a game that we should have won. Many times, just after half time, our heads look anywhere but on the pitch in a game of rugby. 80 minute rugby would help our results no end ,just like the top teams do.
And we still had this problem when TS was in charge.'"


I said the day or two before our game....in more than 70% of the time, the team that scores first wins.

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