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We played well Tonight and if we'd retained the intensity of our defence v a Leeds when we were 10 nil up, we could, should have done them.

Key things for me were the energy loss in the second half plus our poor 3/4 defence/ excellent ball handling skills of pie. We weren't far off. We can't win them all and have to be realistic. We shouldn't expect to win all time.

Re. Some points made about our players- asotasi was excellent in setting the platform and it was a good desicion by TS to start him with Hill. I can't believe anyone who criticises Simms. He puts 101% in and always made yards and put aggression in defence.

We've lost tonight but there's plenty in that match for us to be positive. Pattern was fantastic for his second game. For the first time this season we had timing with our moves when the ball went out and a quality kicking game, miles better than we've seen.

How boring would it be if we won all our games? It would be nice, but we have no right to just expect wins and disregard the quality of the opposition. Apart from the first 15 mins, Wigan were good, and so were we.

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Warrington look a shadow of the side that could be relied upon to flatten every Wigan ball carrier at the JJB two/three years ago.

Given their diminutive pack I figured you'd have smashed them black and blue with your big guys. Instead you allowed them to expand the play at will - thus giving them the freedom and space to play touch rugby.

As for some of the defence in the centres ...

I wouldn't mind if their back line was filled with all time greats. Consider the near total lack of threat Wigan posed Saints at the JJB. I mean, Saints played ok going down in a narrow defeat. But there's nothing we did that you weren't capable of replicating. Granted, we were missing a few. But with a similar degree of effort you could have shut them down just as easily. Whenever you strung one or two sets together they looked almost as vulnerable. Cherry & White shirts were jumping out of the defensive line seemingly ever set.

Very disappointing.

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I must confess that i am disappointed at not being able to slag off Wigan for a thuggish performance....well done to them !
I think in all honesty the difference between the two sides can be summed up thus , Wigan played basic rugby better with a player supporting the man with the ball every time ,simple rugby from the text book, & i was very impressed that Wigan's tries came mostly from handing moves without kicks to the corner, & when in possession they were making much more yardage with ball in hand.
On the other hand ,we still play this one man rugby with the most simple to read plays in the whole of the rugby league & although we do seem to be improving we have again come up short against a team who by their own standards are not great.

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Quote: ninearches "On the other hand ,we still play this one man rugby with the most simple to read plays in the whole of the rugby league & although we do seem to be improving we have again come up short against a team who by their own standards are not great.'"


One man rugby didn't cost Warrington anything like as dearly as the astonishing charity both forwards and backs showed Wigan in defence.

The amount of one-handed passing Wigan were allowed to get away with without penalty would likely result in a top-tier NRL coach taking offence for downright disrespect.

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Got to say better than I expected last night. Solid effort

Young lads got a bit of a lesson in the left side, but tried hard. As a team needed to step up Defensively when 10-0 up but failed miserably.

Despite the best efforts, it doesn't hide the fact that it will almost certainly be 1 win in 7 next week.

Concentration now should be ensuring we stay in the 8, not worrying about Top 4 because we're nowhere near it

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Given recent form to stay with 12 of Wigan was a good overall effort. TS had better sharpen his act for next week as 1 in 7 will not be good news for the club and he and Agar will be under scrutiny. Where were the forwards last night they were still not bossing the middle. Much better in the halves, don't get the Ormsby Penny switch? Like the look of King and Currie was much improved as was Bridge, Westwood and Ratch their usual good selves.

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Just watched the game back on Sky.

Bridge looked back to his best in his correct position. Myler also had a strong game (although not many will elude to that on here) & Patton's kicking game was spot on.

But our left edge defense was appalling at times. Although Tompkins & Gelling were very strong, Patton, King & Ormsby will be targeted by every other club after watching that game. TS has much work to do if he's going to persist with picking them. They were slow to move up, were caught out of position 2 or 3 times, & missed or fell off tackles.

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If I'm honest, I didn't expect much from last night. We were better than I thought we'd be though!

I'm not expecting anything against Leeds next week either.

That would leave us at 1 win from 7. Depending on results, we could be as low as 9th at the end of next weeks rounds.

Our remaining fixtures are:

Leeds - A
Widnes - H
Hull FC - H
Salford - A
Saints - Magic
Catalan - H
Hudds - A
Hull KR - A
Wigan - H
Wakey - A
Saints - H
Cas - A

We need to win a minimum of 7 of the above games. Is that possible?

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I think we should be prefectly capable of winning them all apart from the Wigan, Leeds and Saints games.

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We looked devoid of any sort of attacking game in the second half, which was a bit disappointing.

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Quote: Vespid_Wire "If I'm honest, I didn't expect much from last night. We were better than I thought we'd be though!

I'm not expecting anything against Leeds next week either.

That would leave us at 1 win from 7. Depending on results, we could be as low as 9th at the end of next weeks rounds.

Our remaining fixtures are
Widnes - H - Win
Hull FC - H - Win
Salford - A - Could go either way
Saints - Magic - Lose
Catalan - H - Win
Hudds - A - Lose
Hull KR - A - Lose
Wigan - H - Lose
Wakey - A - Win
Saints - H - Lose
Cas - A - Lose

We need to win a minimum of 7 of the above games. Is that possible?'"


Think we need enough wins to not be in the bottom 4, so how many is that. if you feel that's 7 then we're big trouble in my opinion

Out on their feet second half, which was a worry considering we had to do very little last Saturday, against a team that played on a heavy pitch a day later.

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Penny's defence was awful last night.......

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Quote: WireFanatic III "Penny's defence was awful last night.......'"



Are you taking over from Sally C?

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Quote: morleys_deckchair "Big improvement on the cas game.. the game was lost on the left side of our defence.. Patton, Currie, King and Ormsby had their hands full... you cant blame them, they're only young lads still, who will get bigger and better... It was only fair Smith gave them another game after Wakefield.. Im sure they will have learnt alot from the game.

Wigan bombed a few and Smith kicked very badly.... could have been a worse scoreline... Fair result, no complaints.

Nice to see a HB with a kicking game as well.... More positives than negatives.'"

A very fair summary on a very good game with improvements shown on both side I thought. But still some way to go for both teams.

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Quote: Bobby_Peru "Are you taking over from Sally C?'"


No-one can replace Sally, I'm just making the point that our defensive frailties are not solely linked to Kevin Penny.

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