No, in your opinion drums are needed. I don't sing, but you wouldn't like to stand next to me because I can make more noise than any bloody drum. You can be passionate about your team without singing.

If we can use our voices and only that then even better, well why not sing then? if you can make the noise then do. everyone should be!

Let's just all purchase cow bells and ding them throughout the match

Perhaps it is the 'mix' of an RL crowd now that dampens the atmosphere compared to the 'good old days' with no disrespect towards the ladies and family spectators? Perhaps the fact that we don't have an end now and the difference which this enclosure and dynamic makes, compared to a popular side has had an impact (although it is great to give the boys the length of the field support)?
Perhaps it is a combination of both of these and a reluctance of people these days to start a song/chant off? I don't know what the answer is, but, I'm sure the players feed off an atmosphere so it is all for the common good. A group of what sounded like older fans in the SE corner started a "Warri Warri" off on Sunday in the second half and it was greated with a mixture of applause and embarrassed grins, oh dear (for the reaction not the singing).
Although I agree that we shouldnt get outsung by visitors, to compare away support to home support isn't that fair IMO, it's not just a numbers game. On an away day people tend to be a bit more committed, not going through the motions and have usually had a longer build up to the game, perhaps involving a few more beers on a coach to losen the vocal chords/shake off any inhibitions?

Yes away days to tend to be better and i do reckon its the few more beers that do it. It would just be nice to have a deafening roar when we get a try, and when people chant it lasts more than 15 seconds. many times I've joined in on the second verse and been left singing on my todd. I don't even want to blame new 'Glory' fans because its the people you've never seen before that are making most the noise.

Went into the looking glass after the game, (I ususally go in the kings head but i think I'm going to stay away from now on) and there were banners, flags balloons galore, looked fantastic. that sort of colour and passion needs to be taken to the stadium. I know the passion is there we just need to show it!

I think it a tad embarrasing when the team come onto the feild there is no massive roar or noise, its more like polite clapping.

May be the Saints game might stir up some emotion but I think Wakefield's visit will unfortunately be more of the same as Sunday along with all the others apart from Wigan and Widnes

I was in the West on Sunday and to be honest it was like a Morgue from where I was stood apart from breaks and trys and even then there was only a little bit of shouting and clapping.

HKR never shut up but then neither do Wire fans at Away games.

something has to be done but what?

Good grief.

At least you know you've got nothing to moan about when threads like this pop up.

At the rate of one per week at the moment.

What was annoying me sunday was all kids just doing anything but watch the rugby.That and paying £14 to take my little lad who is only 5 years old.

I've said it before the atmosphere at the HJ has been in decline for the last couple of seasons.

Maybe we could ask the Wigan fans on where we are going wrong..

Good. Grief. What a dull discussion.

Can i add if you don't mind SEB, anymore bloody drum discussions are getting locked.

Some like them, some don't, we get that now.