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Quote: the flying biscuit "the day I support a team that jumps up and down with two fingers in the air giddy as kids ina sweet shop, demanding we take the two like there's a milion quid riding on it i'll watch widnes......'"

We have learned the hard way, by losing to Leeds in two Grand Finals when it was piddling it down, that you play to the conditions. We got a series of two pointers which if we had attempted to get a try in those conditions and with your defence might have not been scored. We played a forwards game and a kicking game and a percentage game. That's the kind of game you play in the wet. We have failed miserably to do that in the past but tonight, for once, we managed it. It might not have been pretty - it wasn't pretty - but knock out rugby is about winning, and only that.

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Quote: Saddened! "Lacking in a bit of dignity perhaps? It's about winning the game, not scoring champagne rugby tries, it was a tad wet if you hadn't noticed. You got to respect the ball, work hard in the forwards and do the basics right before you start worrying about entertainment.'"



You know what, you don't half come up with some rubbish. However this time you have hit the nail on the head, I suppose its too much to ask you continue with this. icon_wink.gif

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I like Warrington ... loved it that they won the Challenge Cup ... predicted it actually ... but tonight ... WTF?
Fattymona ... what's he all about?
Cheap penalties ... piggy-backing Saints to tries.
Never was 'Wanky Warrington' more deserved as a jibe ... they were a disgrace attitude-wise.

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Quote: The Angry Pirate "First off, congrats to Saints on an efficient performance against a pretty inept Wire.

Secondly, I'm actually quite glad we got done tonight, as I couldn't see us doing Saints twice in the space of 2 weeks, considering our poor record against them....Surely, next time will be our moment??...
Downward pressure is all you need, which is what Wellens had!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Get over it, you were beat fair and square by a bunch of youngsters....

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Quote: the flying biscuit "Wire are the only team to be ripped apart 4 tries to 3.

the day I support a team that jumps up and down with two fingers in the air giddy as kids ina sweet shop, demanding we take the two like there's a milion quid riding on it i'll watch widnes.....

Saints used to be the entertainers... the only thing remotely Entertaining about them is James Graham's various styles of handbags....'"


It felt a lot more than 4 tries to 3, as Saints were totally dominant for the last 70 mins. Saints pack bossed the match led by a ginger handbag.

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Quote: newport dave "Downward pressure is all you need, which is what Wellens had!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Get over it, you were beat fair and square by a bunch of youngsters....'"


I can fully accept the defeat...We put in a poor display and were beaten accordingly.

I also can accept that Wellens 'try' was legal....I'm just trying to argue that surely the rule needs adjusting so that a player at least as some semblence of control over the ball when 'downward pressure' is being used??....Wellens had no control at all and yet because the ball richocheted onto his wrist, he is awarded a try.... d040.gif

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Quote: Judder Man "It felt a lot more than 4 tries to 3, as Saints were totally dominant for the last 70 mins. Saints pack bossed the match led by a ginger handbag.'"


Isn't that a worry for Saints??...A game they dominated and yet only scored 4 tries to an outclassed opposition's 3??

If it wasn't for Wire's obvious inability to perform against Saints, I'm pretty sure that Potter & co would be a tad worried that a better performing Wire might be too much for them in a return... icon_cool.gif

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Quote: Wires71 "Come on I know it hurts to lose but take it with a bit of class. Graham totally dominated our pack, we were kicked to death and Saints put in a clever, no nonsense, professional performance under the conditions and we could not cope. We fluked a try in an otherwise barren 82 minutes for us. Outclasssed.'"



I 'm not at all concerned about losing a game that was a dead rubber

in real terms we were beaten by a team that trundled it up the park with minimum fuss, they scored a fluke "try" By Wellens that gave them belief that it was their night like usual.
Then cunningham scoring a try which came from him simply having no other option but to go himself, he looked for runners and had none! that again endorsed the fact that things were "going their way"

The saints pack as a whole played well, to say James Graham on his own dominated our entire Pack (including Carvell who was our best player) is giving credit where it isnt due.

but they made their own luck and fair play to em fair result. but I dont have to take anything with class it isnt my style....

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Quote: The Angry Pirate "First off, congrats to Saints on an efficient performance against a pretty inept Wire.

Secondly, I'm actually quite glad we got done tonight, as I couldn't see us doing Saints twice in the space of 2 weeks, considering our poor record against them....Surely, next time will be our moment??...

Since you brought up the subject of grounding the ball, how long as a player been able to ground the ball with his testicles, A la Myler, if the ref had gone to the video Saints would have had another try. Wellens grounded the ball, Myler didn't. Get over it.

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Quote: The Angry Pirate "Isn't that a worry for Saints??...A game they dominated and yet only scored 4 tries to an outclassed opposition's 3??

If it wasn't for Wire's obvious inability to perform against Saints, I'm pretty sure that Potter & co would be a tad worried that a better performing Wire might be too much for them in a return...

Worried no, we just can,t play to our full potential in this bad weather. If you remember that lovely sunny barmy evening a few years back at Knowsley Road when it was 80-0.

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4 tries to 3? thought it was at least 5 to 3 with them being so on top.

Bit weird seeing a Saints team go for pens and one pointers.

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Quote: Judder Man "Worried no, we just can,t play to our full potential in this bad weather. If you remember that lovely sunny barmy evening a few years back at Knowsley Road when it was 80-0.'"



wrong forum pal.......if your going that far back you have to get a special licence from Norweb, get a members jacket from Elgren, Make some sandwiches from Rathbones Bread and feck right off to the Wigan board where you'll be most welcome

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Quote: the flying biscuit "I 'm not at all concerned about losing a game that was a dead rubber

in real terms we were beaten by a team that trundled it up the park with minimum fuss, they scored a fluke "try" By Wellens that gave them belief that it was their night like usual.
Then cunningham scoring a try which came from him simply having no other option but to go himself, he looked for runners and had none! that again endorsed the fact that things were "going their way"

The saints pack as a whole played well, to say James Graham on his own dominated our entire Pack (including Carvell who was our best player) is giving credit where it isnt due.

but they made their own luck and fair play to em fair result. but I dont have to take anything with class it isnt my style....'"



It wasn't a dead rubber though. Saints are now just one game from a GF. We are two, exactly where we were before kick off. That is what the game was about and what we were competing for.

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Quote: Wires71 "It wasn't a dead rubber though. Saints are now just one game from a GF. We are two, exactly where we were before kick off. That is what the game was about and what we were competing for.'"


To me it kinda was becasue we will play them again if we get to the semi, if we would have won tonight no way we was winning in 2 weeks.

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Quote: the flying biscuit "wrong forum pal.......if your going that far back you have to get a special licence from Norweb, get a members jacket from Elgren, Make some sandwiches from Rathbones Bread and feck right off to the Wigan board where you'll be most welcome'"


That made me laugh. You forgot the need to be accompanied by cloying female pensioners in electric blue shell suits eusa_clap.gif

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