Was I the only one that used their leaflets as confetti tonight?

A lot were made into paper aeroplanes...

Probably not. I got covered with it. Softer than ticket stubs too.

Why do we? I've often wondered.

Lady Daresbury paid for our first kit - she chose primrose as it was her favourite colour and blue as it was the colour of the Tory party.......

As for Vestas - wind power is a ridiculous concept for this country - the amount of turbines required to provide meaningful power for this country is completely impractical.

The future has to be nuclear power with tidal power (we are an island after all) as a 'green' back up.

I feel very dirty now.

I've also often wondered, Wigan, Saints and Leigh all wear Red/Cherry and White; it this a Labour/Lancastrian thing?

our first kit was all black!

The banking system wouldn't have collapsed. If you believe that then please explain how - I think you've fallen for the guff that was spun when Northern Crock was going down.

Seriously, I have heard no one explain why it was necessary to save the banks with any detail - so help me out.

Nuclear power just stores up expense for the future. When the plants reach the end of their safe working life you still have to keep them open, staffed and running for safe disposal of the nuclear waste, when they aren't actually producing any power.

The government seems to have seen nuclear as the bridging gap between fossil fuel energy and technology being good enough to have good renewable energy, but I wouldn't go any further than that, nuclear is a problem.

Quote: Monmouth Wire "The banking system wouldn't have collapsed. If you believe that then please explain how - I think you've fallen for the guff that was spun when Northern Crock was going down. Seriously, I have heard no one explain why it was necessary to save the banks with any detail - so help me out.'" As a free market capitalist I would normally view it that loss making, bankrupt businesses should close leaving the market fight over the bones and recover naturally. However, seeing as this would mean people losing homes and life savings if this was to happen to the banking sector the Government intervention was crucial in preventing a number of the weaker banks going to the wall. Some background reading www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008 ... nking-2008

Quote: Monmouth Wire "The banking system wouldn't have collapsed. If you believe that then please explain how - I think you've fallen for the guff that was spun when Northern Crock was going down. Seriously, I have heard no one explain why it was necessary to save the banks with any detail - so help me out.'" As a free market capitalist I would normally view it that loss making, bankrupt businesses should close leaving the market fight over the bones and recover naturally. However, seeing as this would mean people losing homes and life savings if this was to happen to the banking sector the Government intervention was crucial in preventing a number of the weaker banks going to the wall. Some background reading www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008 ... nking-2008

People have always lost homes and life savings when they get made redundant in loss making bankrupt businesses, so do you support government intervention propping them up to avoid this?

It's funny how the free marketeers like government intervention when middle class professionals' homes and savings are on the line.

In the view of most economic experts the Banking bail-out was neccessary as it underpins the entire capitalist system. Strong arguments both sides and I am fairly divided on it myself as, classically, all the failing banks should have be left to fail. But I have been convinced by the arguments that whilst this is a purer economic model it would cause undue hardship not only to consumers, but also severely damage small business and enterprise.

If your last point was aimed at me, that's cheap and inaccurate.

Which it is. It was a nailed on fact that the money bunged into the banks would be squirreled away and held on their balance sheets for their own benefit and NOT lent out to businesses as required. These banks won't be lending for the next 12 months as they use our money to make themselves look better while still pursuing short-term money making ideas for the benefit of their shareholders.

Lending to businesses has dropped despite the £700 billion they have been given - FACT. If you wanted to make sure that people still kept the economy running (by buying stuff) they should have given every tax payer £4,000 and let them do with it what they wanted.