But for some people it doesn't matter if they're to standard or not, which is sort of the point I was making.

Because with him in the past 12 years the trophies have been endless, I heard they had to buy a new trophy cabinet from ikea

We haven't had a pot in 18 years, who should carry the can prior to that?

hmm well we can't blame wolfie, erm there must be something in the water

Pryce and Long
Maguire and Burrow
Brown and Robinson
Brough and Drew
Cooke and Dobson
Dorn and Orr
Bosc and Bird/Maguire
Tomkins and Leuluai
Chase and Sherwin
Smith and Myler
Thorman and Horne
Jeffries and Deacon

You really think those 24 players are better than Briers?

I don't understand where all this Briers is crap stuff comes from.

He has played in the top flight for 12 years, for most of that time in a beaten team.

He has a kicking game second to none in SL.

When he is on form we generally win.

He is one of the most naturally talented half backs I have seen play anywhere.

He has let himslef down with his application and attitude sometimes, had he avoided this he would have been a regular international player.

We have been a better team with him on board than we would otherwise have been.

The fact that we have not won anything in 18 years is not down to Briers. It is a combination of poor financial management, poor coaching poor recriutment and sometimes just poop players we have put out there

Its a shame

What a legend briers is very sad to see him go if this is true.

So his contract is up, do you

(a) give him a 1yr deal

(b) give him a 2yr deal

(c) give him a 3yr deal

(d) release him and sign a better player probably from the NRL as there are few Half - backs that are English that are good enough !

Why is it a shame ,every player comes to a time in his life where he is past his best we need a younger and better players to replace him.
He has given us many years of good service and was rewarded for that in his bank account through his wages and his testimonial season his time is over imo time for pastures new !

Your having a laugh, surely.

if barrow get their way, and with all the money they are pouring into their team there is a chance they may get a 2012 licence, he may well be playing top flight rugby in the last year of his barrow contract

Looking at that least of players 21 are better than Briers.

What would I do?

It depends what else is available. If better is available in the overall scheme of the cap and recruitment then let him go, sure.

It does not mean I think he is a crap player and I am still thankful for 12 years of service.

It will be a sad day when Briers leaves this club, people on here who have slated him clearly have no knowledge of rugby league. As stated by other posters, he has one of the best rugby brains we will ever see, his kicking game is superb, he can actually pass the ball left and right, something many superleagues other halfbacks struggle to do. As for not doing it against big clubs, what a load of tosh! He's been a thorn in many of the big teams over the years, mainly Leeds, Bradford and Wigan, he's done it against Saints aswell, but always against Saints they have had to much for us. Its been a privledge to watch Lee Briers in the primrose and blue and he's going to be bloody hard to replace if and when he goes.

Out of those 21 players which ones are ball handlers?