Tai's defensive positioning has come on a lot and it's good to see. His attacking intelligence and ability and willingness to pass is still massively where it should be for someone playing centre. This is probably why he's got 1 assist to his name all season. Moves to the right always die when they get to him as he doesn't look to pass.

That's fair comment. For me there is a Divine Trinity of rugby league centres:
1. Destructive runner
2. Rock solid in defence
3. Creates space for their winger and can time the pass.

When we take off the nostalgia glasses, there are and have always been very few players who tick all three boxes.

We have Tai who meets criteria 1 and 2. We have Wrench who meets 1 and 3. Optimistically, we have an attacking coach who ticked all three boxes (as well as a few at Ladbrokes) who should be able to help both players develop.

Quite surprised at the (over) analysis of yates.

He's been fine since coming in.

He's played 13/middle at Huddersfield, Salford and London with no problems.

Based on our set up, at 1/6/7 and 9 it's not essential to have another creative type at 13 just someone who can pass slightly above average

7? Surely you're not saying we don't need Currie because we've got Drinkwater?

Not quite I'm saying it's ok to have yates at 13, it's not the end of the world.

And I know its trendy to hate on drinkwater, I'm not nailing any ultra defensive colours to a mast, but burgess williams and dufty have been complimentary about what drinkwater has been doing in order to let them play.

Cas have come on a lot under Craig Lingard & that was a tough match last night. We did what we had to & i thought our defence coped well when Cas had their big forwards on the pitch alongside the ever dangerous McShane.

Yep I'm surprised too. Stinks a bit of someone watching 20 minutes where he hasn't played so well & deciding he's not a good player. Yates is a very decent player.
I also see the usual bit of crap thrown at Drinkwater & Bateman. Does it make some feel better to criticise players?

Sky & video refs seem to have a system of asking for the most obscure angles to be shown then when the decision has been made a later shot of the action shows a much clearer & simpler angle.

Just wish we could do away with the video ref full stop. Taking far to long with a decision and now players staying down to get penalties to which both coaches made comment on in post match interview. Yates yellow card was wrong for me, actually saw a worse hit than that later and it was just a penalty. If you go back all though you can’t now but was a case for penalty try when Wray was scoring. I really dislike the video ref system.

I have no problem with having a video ref but think if it goes up it should just be “try, yes or no” then no undue influence from the on field ref.

For example no video ref would have meant CTW’s try chalked off.

Where is the hate on Drinkwater? He works hard but is limited as an attacking/creative threat, even if he will very occasionally do something very good and then you wonder why it is so rare.

Not sure what the 'trendy' stuff is about.

Drinkwater does hold the game well.
So often with a money ball or kick that goes without recognition.

We loose, Drinky now, and we are in trouble.

No hate on Yates either, just my opinion he ain’t a prop who makes meters, Duckie was on Vaughans case as not making meters. In my view Vaughan is one of best prop forwards in super league. Along side Thompson at Wigan. As for Drinkwater he just steadys the flow , so Williams can play what he sees in front of him.. I’ve no problem with that style of play with Drinkwater.

We already know that's not yates game, he's defensive (hard tackling) middle