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| Price is only interested in our defensive performance, he says so every time he is interviewed. After the Saints game he focussed purely on the nil rather than anything else.
He'd be delirious if we won every game 6-0.
Yes, defence wins matches but there is a compromise to be had; offence puts bums on seats.
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| Quote: Snaggletooth "I saw another gritty performance, if we can add to that with our halves showing control behind a dominant pack we will do very well I feel.'"
I would concur with this just adding "and low in confidence" after the gritty performance bit. Having said that I am still slightly mystified as to where our confidence went after two good performances against Wigan and Saints. Not sure the players completely buy into Prices tactics. Can't deny that the first half was absolutely appalling but we got better in the second half and will hopefully continue on an upward curve.
As an aside what a disgraceful way to sack your coach. Felt for Radders during the game but it is as they say a results based business. Price is a lucky man
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| One of the big differences was Clarke coming on at dummy half, Danny Walker needs to work on his passing, I’m sure he will improve, but it really disrupts the attack.
Widdop will definitely improve, hopefully the goal kick means he will now be doing more kicking in general play. Austin’s 40/20 was a cracker as was DW’s attempt.
The “almost” try by Ratchford shows a developing relationship.
Promising without getting too carried away.
On another note Houghtons face at the start of the match suggested he was not a happy camper, clearly distracted, I wonder if he knew what was coming? Pearson totally graceless, could have left the announcement till this morning, it felt like Agar was re living his worst nightmare in the studio.
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| Quote: morrisseyisawire "Price is only interested in our defensive performance, he says so every time he is interviewed. After the Saints game he focussed purely on the nil rather than anything else.
He'd be delirious if we won every game 6-0.
Yes, defence wins matches but there is a compromise to be had; offence puts bums on seats.'"
It's funny I was talking to my sister the other day, and this is based of the years of the Challenge Cup Final's the 3 Finals in 4 years and how I would love to see that style of play with better defence and for me Price cannot deliver that.
Yes a fair few of the players from then are not in the team anymore but the team we have is capable of it, those were some exciting games to watch every time we played because you didn't know what you were going to get.
Since Price has come in, it's "Defend, defend, defend" with a small amount of attack, it's boring and doesn't get anywhere.
I know the commentary team last night were saying not so many Warrington fans made the trip because of the "Human Malware" going around, but personally I think most people didn't want to make the trip because it was a Thursday night and they didn't want to waste there time going to watch a amatuer performance and I cannot blame them if that is the case.
It will be interesting to see the attendance numbers for the next home game if they don't get forced to play behind closed doors.
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| Quote: Captain Hook "Danny Walker needs to work on his passing, I’m sure he will improve, but it really disrupts the attack.'"
Is it just me or does it seem to take an age for him to pass it? Quick PTB, on the front foot then he steps up, bends down, grabs the ball, steps his foot out, looks up, stands up, then passes. It takes FOREVER.
It's also blatantly obvious which way the ball is going because the foot he sticks out is the way its going.
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| Quote: Damienc "It's funny I was talking to my sister the other day, and this is based of the years of the Challenge Cup Final's the 3 Finals in 4 years and how I would love to see that style of play with better defence and for me Price cannot deliver that.
Yes a fair few of the players from then are not in the team anymore but the team we have is capable of it, those were some exciting games to watch every time we played because you didn't know what you were going to get.
Since Price has come in, it's "Defend, defend, defend" with a small amount of attack, it's boring and doesn't get anywhere.
I know the commentary team last night were saying not so many Warrington fans made the trip because of the "Human Malware" going around, but personally I think most people didn't want to make the trip because it was a Thursday night and they didn't want to waste there time going to watch a amatuer performance and I cannot blame them if that is the case.
It will be interesting to see the attendance numbers for the next home game if they don't get forced to play behind closed doors.'"
we were all calling for price to get the sack the other day and suggesting we bring Wayne in. The exact same style of coach but actually gets an attack out of his team as well.
The reason we've never won a GF is because as good as we were with TS we weren't structured defensively nor were we methodical in attack. Like it or lump it but the style of play Price wants us to play is NRL, High percentage, play-off winning, final winning Rugby.
The only problem is Price seems to be good at coaching Defence but not so much Offence.
If Price can get our attack firing I'm not bothered about winning 16-0 every week if it wins us a GF.
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| Steve Price Defence coach, Daryl Powell attack coach would do us nicely.
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| I can understand fans wanting to see fast free flowing attacking rugby but I think the team needs to build a strong platform first. Concentrating on defence is certainly not very exciting, but nobody loses a game if they nil the opposition. If they get into a routine of playing a tight defence it gives players the confidence that they have the structures and will more than likely take home the points as well. Then slowly introduce a bit more risk into their play. The SL trophy is a knock out competition for roughly the top half of the teams, so it doesn't actually start until we have played ? 26 games. So plenty of time to develop a bit of attacking flair as long as we pick up the points along the way.
That does assume SL will not be disrupted this year (unlikely imo) and that SP is capable of developing the tactics and can in his words " throw a bit of shape" at the opposition (not hopeful on that either).
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| Quote: Winslade's Offload "I can understand fans wanting to see fast free flowing attacking rugby but I think the team needs to build a strong platform first. Concentrating on defence is certainly not very exciting, but nobody loses a game if they nil the opposition. If they get into a routine of playing a tight defence it gives players the confidence that they have the structures and will more than likely take home the points as well. '"
Top teams can manage both. Why can't we?
(usual suspects)
Leeds +120
Wigan +84
Saints +65
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| Quote: Wires71 "Top teams can manage both. Why can't we?
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Leeds +120
Wigan +84
Saints +65'"
To be fair those three teams are pretty much unchanged from last year.
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| Quote: morrisseyisawire "The second half was certainly an improvement but it wouldn't have been good enough to beat most SL sides. Nonetheless, some positives
Fair to add: good performance by Toby King, clever finish by Lineham to avoid being bundled into touch
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| Quote: moving on... "To be fair those three teams are pretty much unchanged from last year.'"
So are we, bar an upgrade from Patton to Widdop, it's the same side
Price wants to bore the opposition (and us speccies), into submission.
No good for the speccy that wants to be entertained. If I want result rugby, I'll read it in the paper, the following morning.
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| We ought to have beat Pies with 12 men.
Beat Saints
Beat Cas
Beat Hull
These were the 4 favoured teams plus ourselves.
Where is the threat for 2020?...Leeds??
Perhaps we underestimate how good Wire actually are.
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| Quote: lefty goldblatt "So are we, bar an upgrade from Patton to Widdop, it's the same side
Price wants to bore the opposition (and us speccies), into submission.
No good for the speccy that wants to be entertained. If I want result rugby, I'll read it in the paper, the following morning.'"
The attacking play is the area that SP doesn't seem capable of delivering. Its hardly surprising he knows about defence because he comes from the NRL, but Wire seem pretty clueless when they get within 20 yards of the opposition line.
But I think the point is that early doors, Wire may be best focussing on defence and playing low risk until they get a few games under their belt and a bit of confidence. The side has been disrupted at the start of the season; Gelling has come in...and gone out, to be replaced by a novice. Widdop didn't appear for the first two games, Hill managed to get a three week holiday on the naughty step and we moved Ratchford to SO and brought in Matty Ashton...who then got injured. So why not try and keep a settled side, play low risk football and concentrate on defence. Then start to move the ball around and take a few risks when they gain a few points and a lot more confidence. (Not that I think SP will actually be able to deliver that).
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| The thing is, if you have a great defence like we have(bar the Leeds fiasco)then you should be willing to try all sorts in attack and not worry too much about making a mistake as your defence will back you up. Does price not get this?
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