Steve got there before me.

Admin have instructed all Gleeson threads on RLF to be locked, their call. I am guessing a Wire mod has not seen it yet hence it's still open.

Still carry on b#tching, Hutchie will back you up

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That goes for Hull posters criticising the Hull Mods, anymore of it and you're gone.

MOD rule.

Nelson Mandela and Amnesty International are going to come after you lot.

It must be something bad as he never looked the stressed out type, that's how he came across at forums etc, really laid back, sort of uncomplicated y'know, like he would have laughed hysterically at that Meerket advert for weeks on end.

The stigma of stress and depression means a lot of people are able to hide it quite well, you get the time honoured line all the time off families when someone commits suicide of

"i always thought they was so happy, i never realised"

Cheer up Martin Gleeson..

Yeah, I guess.

Shame really, he's one of the few backs in SL I enjoy watching to be honest.

Sally has summed up this bizarre view of Gleeson. The guy has notched up plenty of awards over his career and they've been fully deserved. If the bloke likes to live life dangerously who cares?

I bet he reaches similar situations to Franky 4 fingers in the film, Snatch. Soon as somebody mentions booze he has a crazy flashback - in his case probably with Sean Long in a travelodge wearing pink knickers being whipped by two Asian hookers.

This thread has been a lot more mature discussion than some of those on other boards but a couple of the posts on here just sum up my point.

This business where everybody seems to want to be in the know and pass and spread on gossip has always just seemed totally bizarre to me, it just strikes me as a load of attention seekers. If someone wants to get a bit of attention they can just come on the internet make a few cryptic comments and say "can't say officially on here but if anyone wants to know by PM I will tell em" then on come all the sheep "hey could u PM me pls mate", all wanting to give this sad act the attention for repeating a rumour which he/she has either read somewhere else on the net.

This happens in all the working class towns/cities, where most people have hard lives and have bugger all in their lives, but they all want to peddle gossip about people from their community who have actually made it, and usually its negative. All my Geordie mates who you would think would think the sun shines out of Alan Shearers backside, like to tell me that "great player, but if you meet him in person, he's a complete idiot", I've asked them, have you met him? and it's "no but ask any taxi driver". They all have the same stories about Cheryl Cole as well.

Wigan is one of the worst towns for this, I bet you any Wiganer you meet, will be able to tell you all sorts of stuff about Martin Gleeson, Martin Aspinwall etc, again it's all "my mate saw him out in town and this happened", but to be honest I could join in all these rumours as well....because I've read them all on the net. It happens up in Leeds where I live now, everybody up here has an Ellery Hanley story, usually related to anecdotes of his superhuman strength and success with the local females, I think some of them are just reworked Chuck Norris stories.

Gleeson is hardly unique at moving from top club to top club. Hanley and Andy Gregory did it, Lee Gilmour and Paul Johnson as well.

There's a difference between that and ending up like Bobbie Goulding, being passed around by Hudds (when they were bottom of the league), Wakefield, Salford and Leigh at the end of his career. Bobbie is the one who wasted his talent, which he now freely admits, remember him in his late 20s, when he was still a good enough player to play for a top team, being an angry man sticking his fingers up and wobbling his belly at us, you knew that he was frustrated with how things had turned out.

Lets not forget Martin Gleeson for all his supposed long history of indiscretions, was scoring twice at Old Trafford and picking up a Grand Final medal only eight months ago. For most people that would be the high point pinnacle of their career. For Gleeson it is supposedly in a period of decline.