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| Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "Genuine request here. Could someone please explain the hip drop tackle technique and what the player is doing deliberately amd illegally when carrying one out?
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The tackler grabs onto the player and deliberately lifts their feet in order to try and drag the player to the floor, using their own weight.
The problem is that weight, usually ed around the tackler's hip, drops onto the ball carrier's legs. Or in Knowles' case, the side of the knee.
When the player leaves the ground by picking their feet up, they no longer have control of the tackle, giving the technique a high chance of injury.
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| Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "Ok, thanks.
Isn't any multiple player tackle going to be prone to injuries though?.. for example, if an attacking player is standing in the tackle, as Cooper was, and is dragging defenders with him on a surging run, then simply by the laws of physics there is a possibility that a dragged along defender may end up falling unintentionally?
I guess the job of the match officials and disciplinary committee is to decide in whether a player is acting deliberately in injuring a player?'"
I'll.comr back to this after the gym. I did think this on Friday with the bachelor sin binning
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| Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "Genuine request here. Could someone please explain the hip drop tackle technique and what the player is doing deliberately amd illegally when carrying one out?
Don't want to get too much 'the game's gome soft', but RL has always been a game played on the edge, where injuries can be picked up, so I'm just curious about that fine line between a tackle being deliberately carried out with intent to injure.'"
Hip drop tackle is basically when a tackler falls with all his weight on to the tackled players lower limbs bringing him down in the process.
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| Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "Ok, thanks.
Isn't any multiple player tackle going to be prone to injuries though?.. for example, if an attacking player is standing in the tackle, as Cooper was, and is dragging defenders with him on a surging run, then simply by the laws of physics there is a possibility that a dragged along defender may end up falling unintentionally?
I guess the job of the match officials and disciplinary committee is to decide in whether a player is acting deliberately in injuring a player?'"
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| Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "Ok, thanks.
Isn't any multiple player tackle going to be prone to injuries though?.. for example, if an attacking player is standing in the tackle, as Cooper was, and is dragging defenders with him on a surging run, then simply by the laws of physics there is a possibility that a dragged along defender may end up falling unintentionally?
I guess the job of the match officials and disciplinary committee is to decide in whether a player is acting deliberately in injuring a player?'"
Cooper had beaten the 3 tacklers with a great surging run. Knowles had hold of him but I presume knew he was beaten (disciplinary panel to decide) and Cooper was through in a potential offloading position so fell on to back of legs with weight causing his legs to buckle and bringing him down.
Explaining was never one of my greatest traits.
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53838_1362327793.jpg And so you aim towards the sky,
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| Quote: Sparky1967 "Cooper had beaten the 3 tacklers with a great surging run. Knowles had hold of him but I presume knew he was beaten (disciplinary panel to decide) and Cooper was through in a potential offloading position so fell on to back of legs with weight causing his legs to buckle and bringing him down.
Explaining was never one of my greatest traits.'"
I guess it's pretty much down to personal interpretation of the incident - I think Lussick doesn't help the situation, because he comes in from the side and leaves Knowles with a very limited scope for where he can go and, legally, his only option is to let Cooper go, but the natural instinct of a tackler will be the exact opposite of that.
I think he will have the book thrown at him, simply because of his record and that he has got himself a reputation, deservedly, through past misdemeanours, but in that Cooper incident, I honestly think he might have a reasonable argument that it wasn't intentional.
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| There's a video on nrl.com with the title "Key indicators of a hip drop tackle" (easily found via a search engine of your choice ) and with the description "Graham Annesley explains the key indicators referees and review officials are looking at when trying to classify a hip drop tackle". Which shows video examples of 'hip drop' and 'non hip drop' tackles (or at least the criteria which the Aussies are using).
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| Do us a favour folks can we keep all the dudson stuff in the dudson thread now, and Knowles etc in here.
Cheers
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| Be interesting to see the minutes, and complaints from saints (that rhymes) philbin only got 2 games
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| Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "Be interesting to see the minutes, and complaints from saints (that rhymes) philbin only got 2 games'"
Yeh looking forward to seeing that. Knowles grading was D 2-3 I know when it goes to tribunal that the panel can increase it. I’m wondering did Saints try to appeal the grading and then got stuck with the 2 extra games.
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| And over on Redvee it’s still a conspiracy, not seen this much conspiracy since the killing of JFK.
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| It’s comedy gold AGAIN. I almost feel sorry for the couple of fair-minded posters on there, must be exhausting.
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| Visions of Wellens following the ban stood in front of Cull and Co with his arms outstretched in similar fashion to his entire playing career.
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| Quote: ratticusfinch "It’s comedy gold AGAIN. I almost feel sorry for the couple of fair-minded posters on there, must be exhausting.'"
Thanks, but I don’t go on often.
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