What were you expecting? It's in line with modern stadiums and for a rugby league facility, wholly owned by the club, it's a fantastic outcome is it not?

It's apparently doing really well from a commercial point of view, with conference suites, meeting rooms and dining facilities being used daily by businesses. Corporate boxes have sold out regularly throughout the season as well and the bars are making a wedge on matchdays and we've just opened a really posh coffee shop that is open throughout the week. The club is also showing away games at the stadium and we're making plenty of wonger through that as well.

The cladding will give it a far more finished sheen. The open concourses and lack of cladding is obviously an issue, but the club's designers quoted other stadiums like the Galpharm for example where this exists. They tested the height of the walls and the direction of the wind movement and concluded the stadium didn't need cladding, but could be added for £x. After experiencing some pretty nasty weather early doors this season it became evident it did need cladding. Saints are therefore paying to add this at the end of the season. Once that's done it'll be like the HJ's big cousin.

Who came up with that pearler?

To be fair, Warrington have been doing all that for years plus have other businesses actually based from the HJ (NHS for example). We're still the blueprint to be followed. Although LP is newer, and a higher capacity, it's still light years behind how diversely developed the HJ is.

Well you'd expect the Halliwell Jones to be diversely developed as it's been there for a good few years, so it has established links and contacts etc.

Langtree Park is getting there and when the stadium becomes established it will be a very good money making machine, as it seems to be already. Every time I go past the stadium during the day the car-park is packed full of cars, so something is always happening there...I mean the other day it was full of British Gas vans. The hospitality seems to be near full every home game which is great.

I'm actually surprised by the comments on here, they seem to be positive which shows the potential that it has once it has been finished. If you compare your views to that of Bradford fans then you will see the effect that the weather has. There is no doubt that the original design was a monumental balls up, but there are legal issues that are being cleared up behind the scenes according to a statement released the other month and we have been promised that it'll be fixed after the season.

I'm sure you don't really care about what's happening at our club, so I'll shut up now

Chaz, whatever you do don't disagree with him, you will just go round in circles...apparently.

Sorry Albion couldn't resist.

Some Soccer Premier League Clubs tried to do this about 10 years ago, for example Aston Villa were offering a Home Season ticket with the option of paying extra and going to Villa Park to watch every away game, there was great interest from fans but the Premier League wouldn't allow it.

Do Saints show every away game? If so has does that affect your travelling support? Some SL clubs bank on the tickets sales from the away support of clubs like Wire, Wigan, Leeds, Hull & Saints to boost their attendances.

Sheffield Wednesday started doing beam backs a couple of years ago for the steel city derby, this was only possible when all away tickets were sold at bumhole lane, cos the demand was obviously through the roof, i think though that a large proportion of those funds went to charity. The pigs started doing this as well a year or so afterwards.

In all fairness, no clubs should be banking on away support and should see those ticket sales as a bonus.

Why not? If you get promoted into or are a small club playing in the top division and are mixing it with the 'big boys' then that is part of the reward surely.

Maybe the semantic difference between bank and bonus but in reality is there any difference (in any walk of life)

First sentence fails on one word, promoted

I know what you mean, CC ties for lower league clubs this definitely applies and I agree there, but in SL, your business plan should be able to depend upon home support. With London and Catalans bringing next to no fans for the obvious reason, 400 mile and 2000 mile round journeys to deal with, and the Yorkshire sides with the exception of probably only Leeds (1000+) bringing anything between 100-750. There's not THAT much revenue in the grand scheme of things generated by away ticket sales. I'll say roughly £150K after the 10% deduction when for example turnover should be approx £4M - About 4%. As I said, a welcome bonus, but should definitely not be depended upon.

First bit regarding promotion was firmly tongue in cheek my friend!

Although I see what you're saying, FYI, Warrington make nothing from beer and food sales. They rent the kiosks to Heathcotes/Lindley Catering so have a fixed income regardless.

Phew I'm glad we cleared that one up. Although if they sold less pints etc or vice versa, when the lease comes up for renewal......only joking.

Good luck what a time to bea WIre?