I'm going to resurrect this ridiculous thread on my dingdangdongle for backslappers.

We gave it a good dig v Pies but to be honest we never looked like we could win after that first 10 mins without some ref help and luck, but was evident that we could compete, which was pleasing.

Once Big Roy was subbed, our props for much of the game, were owned by the Pies big guys.

Hilly as much as we love him was shut down.

Sims effort and passion is there but he looked the looked all over that extra stone lacking prop we've already identified.

England makes daft errors and is slow.

Big Roy doesn't get enough time on the pitch when he actually does look the best prop we had.
Yes big Roy was our only prop who could match the size and effectiveness of the Pies props.

Thank the Lord, Wakefield had only one fit prop last week.

If we had have had Woody still we may just have matched them. We are desperate for another Morley or a Carvell if we are to make a real challenge this season.

Is Hill injured or something? I only ask because aside from the dummy and score he was practically anonymous against Saints.

Roy looks good because he averages 20 mins a game 10 mins a half for 160,000 a week, and 5 bed house all in,,
England was our best forward last night, played nearly 50 mins, and hit Crosby hard on more than one occasion, Simms played about 20 mins, didn't reshow, hill has been out of sorts,, our best pair which started most of our 10 game winning run last year was England and hill,,
Big Roy needs to play longer than 15/20 mins a week and we will see how fresh and quick he looks,,
My worry is how tired Ben Harrison looks and we are not halfway through season yet,,
Our defence lost game not forwards, if ratchfordratchford hadn't slipped 2 metres from try line another 6 points, means we would lost by 4, that wing has been our week spot Widnes did us and cas hit us teams will work it out, forwards arnt issue for me,,

I would work Asotasi hard every match, get our bleeding money's worth before he hightails it back to Oz.

anyone who crosses the line to play this great game at whatever level is no coward. All entitled to opinions but a coward he is defiantly not.

Really??????

We are in need of a strong running forward which causes excitement in the crowd every time he takes the ball up, busting tackles & offloading a plenty for Myler et al to feed off

I did leave the statement open ended about Woody, but he was still on our books this season so that was the point.
But I did harp on about us being a quality prop short. We signed Sims but release Woody, so we're no better off! Still one short.

Two props down with Ben Evans who is probably the quickest of our props, although Hill is being targeted he is still putting in the effort we were poor against Sts yet he made the sky opta team of the week for most meters.

Is walmsley injured mugwump? I only ask because the world's best prop missed nine tackles last night...and it's not as if he should be as tired as hill who went down under on international duty in the off season. Cracking defence from all by the way.

The world's best prop plays for the Dogs. Another Saints lad. You might have heard of him.

If the reason Carvell went was that he wanted a 2 year, not 1 year deal, I am sure TS regrets not giving him it.

The Carvell saga is done for me. He's had 4 clubs in the 2 years that he wanted from us, and played around a dozen games with mixed outcomes. Players have a shelf life and TS got this one bang on. We got the best from him, and he will be remembered for being a great player, not the shadow of his former self that he has drifted in to in the background at Fev.

Oppotunities for G. King and B Evans have been presented because of this, and they could be the future of the club.

Great decision for me

wires71 possibly, like a few I feel he got the whole changeover process wrong, not getting adequate replacements apart from Sims has lead to players playing out of position, losing Wood pre season then B Evans to injury only compounded matters upfront, assuming Roy is on his way home close season I would think at least one prop possibly two to come in. Barbed Wire has a good point though chances for young players to come through.

I'm also curious to know what Carvell has done since leaving us that would make Tony regret letting him leave? As much as I loved him for us he's been on the treatment table for most of the last two years, the shelf life comment is bang on.

Smith got the carvell situation just right... if we had given him 2 more years, then all his injuries happened there would have been uproar.

1 year was the right offer... the medical staff would have seen him take longer to recover in between games and that probably swayed the contract offer.

warrington will have known more about his situation than the clubs singing him, thats for sure.