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we did all warn you about his defence!icon_wink.gif

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Quote: the flying biscuit "absolutely correct I saw more in O'brien in two games than I have done in two seasons of Myler. ( I have always said i'm not a fan)

Myler is not a weak link in defence at all but he offers nothing in atttack and When Hodgson stinks like dog pooh as he did tonight we cannot afford a passenger at Number 7.


that said its my first post on the most inept Wire performance in at least fifteen years and we were only beaten by 8 points So i'm not too bothered now. yes it hurts to be bum banged by a team outside the top eight but we can only get better.

I fear Widnes may cop a bit of a hiding'"



I think we agree and all points but that was not the most inept performance in 15 years. You have a short memory as that takes us back to 1997. We have been much worse in the interim.

PS - Love the bum banged. In fact that's what hurts most. Losing to those who look they are fresh from a Shameless TV shoot.

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Quote: wardleyred "we did all warn you about his defence!icon_wink.gif'"



its been faultless you cretin........... icon_frustrated.gif

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Quote: wardleyred "we did all warn you about his defence!icon_wink.gif'"

The only thing no one is criticising icon_stupid.gif

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Too many forwards, mainly Wood and Carvell not hitting through the line like they should, it's getting to the point where it has become predictable. They carry the ball to line instead of trying to win the collision and win the floor to gain a quick PTB they instead hit turn and throw pathetic offloads out of the back door. It's shambolic at times.

Hill and Cooper on the other hand are showing the other two up.

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Quote: RLIMR "Too many forwards, mainly Wood and Carvell not hitting through the line like they should, it's getting to the point where it has become predictable. They carry the ball to line instead of trying to win the collision and win the floor to gain a quick PTB they instead hit turn and throw pathetic offloads out of the back door. It's shambolic at times.

Hill and Cooper on the other hand are showing the other two up.'"





Hill I agree, were you happy with Cooper tonight?

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Cooper didn't do anything special, he frustrated me though in that he always ran in to the most heavily populated area time after time, even on an overlap cut inside and ran in to traffic, nothing smart from him tonight but if we had to mark them all from top to bottom he was one of our better performers, unfortunately most of the team were average at best.

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Quote: Wires71 "Hill I agree, were you happy with Cooper tonight?'"


Not so much tonight as I have been so far this season. However, he didn't make a single error tonight, didn't turn the ball over in ridiculous fashion and at least attempted to win the collision stand and play the ball as quick as he could, which he won a penalty or two for as a result. The other two did the complete opposite of all of that.

Wood has been atrocious all season though.

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funny that as the author of this post happened to mention it!

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Quote: RLIMR "Not so much tonight as I have been so far this season. However, he didn't make a single error tonight, didn't turn the ball over in ridiculous fashion and at least attempted to win the collision stand and play the ball as quick as he could, which he won a penalty or two for as a result. The other two did the complete opposite of all of that.

Wood has been atrocious all season though.'"




Fair assessment. I like coops. Wood needs to be dropped. Not earning the shirt presently.

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Basically, any opposing coach can watch any video of our team for the last few years & see exactly how our main playmakers perform week in week out. Tonight Saints came to us, got in our faces & blew us off the field for 20 minutes ,when the Wire realised what had hit them , there was too much of a hill to climb . What i can't understand is how the Saints team of basically the same players have been unable to get results for their adoring fans & Royce Simmons.

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Quote: wardleyred "funny that as the author of this post happened to mention it!'"
Just the Author out of a seven page thread*!!If Anything his defence has improved ten fold !!!!!!!!

I presume you know what that means?? icon_mrgreen.gif

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Myler was extremely poor for you lot last night, didnt seem to get involved in attack and got targeted time and time again from Saints in defence, worst game iv seen him play for you. Saying that, there's no shame in an 18 point defeat last night, Saints were brilliant in all aspects of the game, brutal defence and fantastic free flowing attacking rugby, I fear the worst for us good friday.

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Quote: mark_m "Agreed we will start to perform sooner or later and we have played poorly but still have points on the boardd.'"

True. Which must be worrying for the rest of SL because we've already played Hull Huddersfield Bradford Leeds Wigan, and in nine days Catalans, all away and we haven't even played well once really.

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Quote: 21-12 "Myler was extremely poor for you lot last night, didnt seem to get involved in attack and got targeted time and time again from Saints in defence, worst game iv seen him play for you. Saying that, there's no shame in an 18 point defeat last night, Saints were brilliant in all aspects of the game, brutal defence and fantastic free flowing attacking rugby, I fear the worst for us good friday.'"

Games are won and lost in the forwards. They rarely get the man of the match nor the headlines in victory, and often are forgotten in defeat, but they are te reason you win or lose games. There were poor performances from our pivots in Myler Brears and Hodgeson, but every forward did something in the game that was far worse than any if them three did to lose us the game.

Chris Hill was our best forward last night but even he threw the ball straight to Saints, in yet another suicidal off-load, in the very first set in the second half.

The ONLY player who played well for us was Reilly (again)(our best player so far this season).

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