That may be, but if your attack was 100% on, in theory, you may never have to make a tackle in a game!

The Saints way of thinking of a few years ago...you will score but we will outscore you .

Defence wins games, they don't score they don't win.

Look at Widnes and Castleford and their great attack.

not 100%

Seriously you on a wind up or do you just know love all?

thats cos its impossible

Very primrose tintedthis thread. Defence was abysmal. Fair to say he had lots of pace and a good step but his handling if I remember correctly was also poor.

Vs Wakefield at home pre Wembley 09 was embarrassing for him. And us.

What's his stats at Swinton this season

60% completion on high fiving
12 whoops

Penny not Mathers

I see all the "he can't defend" merchants are out in force again. People need to realise that just because a try is scored in the corner it doesn't automatically make it the wingers fault.(unless it's ben jones bishop's in the grand final!). I can honestly remember penny only ever making two defensive howlers(saints in the cup and hull kr at home when we blew a big lead). The lad has got unquestionable talent as you don't make fools of some top quality full backs the way he did without it. I will be made up if he returns and to all his knockers, i though it was "in smith we trust". I still believe he was ushered out due to the size of contract he was on and the fact that his confidence was shot to pieces(thanks Jimmy Lowes!)didn't help him.

Best not to sign players who have dropped down from a SL club.......

Probably still better than Williams.

No it so ain't, highly improbable but 100% is not impossible.
Wire came very very close v Swinton in the cc.

I would love it if he returned and played outside a quality centre. In space he was unplayable.

Hope there is some truth in this