Aren't you the dick who:

- wished Danny McGuire had broke his neck: I guess you won't be sending the Matt King Christmas cards this year: and

- posted allegations that a Warrington player failed a drugs test as fact when they were completely fabricated.

Yes, that's him. Why he isn't banned is beyond me.
Not wishing to de-rail the thread at all, so back to it. I think Tomkins is best at 6 at the mement, but that isn't to say that he won't make a great fullback in time. He is the best young talent in English RL and needs to be looked after. Any Warrington fans who think otherwise are deluding themselves.

I don't like de-railing threads but I just wanted to say:-

- you said you wanted Danny Maguire to break his neck
- you alleged a Warrington player failed a drugs test

seems like that should recieve a ban.

I'd much rather take the experienced fullback who can kick goals (Hodgson) over a petulant, spoilt cheat from Wigan who we'd have to pay well over the odds for anyday.

Brilliant argument....ones playing at full back in the state of Origin the other is more suited to sitting in the back of an orange estate.


Fact Sam Tomkins is a great prospect
Fact his kicking game is ordinary
Fact he was poor at Stand off v Kiwis
Fact he was poor at Full back V Australia
Fact he will play ok./well v Papua New gunea at either fullback or stand off
Fact He will stay at Wigan for a long time
Fact no fan gives credit to an opposing teams star player especially if they are a niggly little turd...

Fact Sam tomkins is Rubbish...see above fact for reason behind this.

hope this has cleared up the Tomkins debate

Realistically you are not going to get the likes of Billy Slater or Brett Stewart, i would have gone for Ben Farrar (23yrs of age) who Catalan signed, he looked a class act when filling in for Brett Stewart.

Heres hoping we sign a lot more average players over the coming seasons then


I cant actually decide if you really think Sam is average, or your just another desperate wire fan trying to convince yourself that Wigan arent really that good. To anyone whos not totally biased against Wigan, Sam is easily one of, if not the best fullback in the league after only playing a handfull of games in that position

You surnames not Benitez is it?? Lol.



Tomkins is a good future prospect, and i think he'd do well in a Wire shirt.** Runs and hides**



He looked average (if that) against superior opposition, but having said that, the whole England team did. He was taught a lesson in playing stand off when Wigan played Wires at wigan though by the god that is Lee Briers

agree with that master class by Briers and i think that is where our money should go.

Concidering Sam plays full back now but likes to play stand off (Ithink) Where we gonna play him when he signs for Wire **doesn't run and hide**

i assume the answer would be Fullback as, as has been said, he can't kick for toffee and [size=50can't lead[/size



My point being i would rather take the money we would no doubt be forced to pay for Standard Sam

jk and buy a star NRL stand off like Benji.

In fact I like the sound of that,

no he's not he's done exactly what Graham Appo did at Wire a few years ago he was playing wing one minute the next when Briers got injured he stepped in at stand off took us to the playe offs and was named in the dream team ......

the following year he was $hit....

are you saying Tomkins is better than Wellens as a complete fullback or even Briscoe ....no hes done well in his first few games at it and was very pleasing on the eye in an attacking sense but as quite clearly emphasised on Sunday he has rarely been tested in defence at fullback and when he is he comes up short.....

Note to wigan fans this does not mean Sam tomkins is rubbish he just isnt the worlds best fullback after 6 games

spot on best post on this topic...good player yes..world class no..