Someone with some sense at last! I get sick of hearing or reading people saying a ref is bent or biased. I wonder if some of thesepeople would take it up themselves. It always happens when a ref drops a clanger - "He's got it in for us!" Its easy to say a ref is bent when you're stood on the terraces isn't it?

was klein i think

Uncalled for I think. Its very easy to say that when on the terraces wearing P&B specs.

it wasn't the ref who cost us the game we only got 1 out of 4 goal attempts which lost us the game. simple best team won on the night and hopefully we make it up at hj

Fourteen 14 defeats and only four wins in three and a bit years.

Defeats:-
Bradford (2)
Catalan (1)
Harlequins (1)
Huddersfield (1)
Hull KR (2)
Saints (5)
Wigan (2)

Wins
Harlequins (1)
Hull KR (1)
Huddersfield (1)
Salford (1)

Take out all Saints games and we still have 4 wins and 9 losses (31% win ratio) with Silverwood compared to 40 wins and 26 defeats (61% win ratio) with all the other referees. Those remaining 13 games were hardly against the cream of SL!

I would love to know why we have had Silverwood five times out of nine games against Saints, and I have yet to hear any reasonable argument as to how our record with one particular referee can be so bad when compared to the rest.

Given those stats you should by now know what to expect from him and be able to tailor your game to suit it. Every referee has a style that players can see and they will know what they are likely to get away with under Silverwood compared with say Alibert.

And on those stats I can only see Quins that you have been comfortably better than over that period and wasn't that defeat an absolute blow out by something like 50 points in London?

If one referees style or interpretation is so different from the rest then firstly both teams would struggle to adapt rather than just one every time, and secondly shouldn't it be upto the referee to bring himself into line with every other referee?

Those stats are just win/loss with Silverwood. We have had him twice against wigan and lost both, with other referees we have won four and lost one. Against Bradford we have lost twice with Silverwood yet won three, lost two with the rest, Hull KR won one, lost two with Silverwood, won four, lost one with the rest.

Eighty-eight games in total, eighteen with Silverwood is a reasonabley sized sample to work from. Our win/loss ratio with Silverwood when compared to the rest is fishy to say the least!

i didnt say he cost us the game , i said is decisions were shocking

Not the first time our win/loss ratio has been queried under Silverwood's stewardship.

Saddened; move on. This topic has developed way beyond Friday's game, consequently your input is no longer required nor valid.

Are we going to have this thread every time Silverwood refs us? Please god no.

Saints would beat us if Tony Smith was reffing. In relation to SIlverwood, he is the only referee who's integrity could actually be questioned.

rlInstances like this don't help his cause either.rl

i prefer these threads to "how many car stickers have the club shop sold this week?"

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