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| Quote: DallasMead2 "ANYONE who mentions Tyrone Roberts on this forum going forward should be banned, one month minimum. Second offence, life ban!!!!'"
You'll love this then, and wonder how anyone can put him on the same level as Bryson Goodwin https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/rating-all-23-of-steve-prices-signings-as-warrington-coach-44877/rl
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| Quote: shinymcshine "You'll love this then, and wonder how anyone can put him on the same level as Bryson Goodwin https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/rating-all-23-of-steve-prices-signings-as-warrington-coach-44877/rl'"
Who on God's earth did those ratings? Jason Clark 9/10???!!! And I'd almost forgotten about signings like Ben Pomeroy!!
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| Quote: Wiremansam "Moving to prop??? He needs to move to Leigh'"
This is exactly our problem. We would never in a million years sign Hughes to play at prop so we are basically making do until his contract peters out.
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| Quote: Deus Dat Incrementum "
Some of the signings are a concern (Minikin, Bullock, Magoulias) but over the last 17 years we must be at the top of the leader board for players that have won grand final rings with other clubs but failed to win a GF ourselves.
We raided Bradford in the mid 2000's with Swan, Reordan, Parker, Forshaw etc. During the Smith Era we started to take ex Leeds players like Mathers and later Bailey and then ex Wigan players (OK usually via another club) Cosby, Hughes, Charnley and now Williams.. Also in that time we picked up some of the brightest talents in the game from other clubs like Salford, Wakefield and Cas and still the big one eluded us.
I remember the post match analysis after the play off defeat to Hull Kr when pundits were saying that we needed more players that were a bit more workmanlike, that would put the hard graft in. So maybe the likes of Minikin and Magoulias allthogh unremarkable signings and don't have GF rings or a highlight reel like Ben Barba maybe just what we need. Time will tell I guess.'"
The fact that we haven't won a Grand Final when we've signed bigger name players doesn't mean that we're more likely to win one if we sign fringe first teamers. We've tried that with Leon Felton, Tommy O'Reilly, Matt Sturm and we were no better with them!
Now there is a chance that because the general quality of SL is not very good at the moment, some relatively unheralded Australian players could come over here and do well. In the late 90s there was a lull in quality in SL and after the Aussies consolidated down the number of clubs after the Super League war there were a lot of Aussie players out of a job and you had some guys who nobody knew much about from Aus come over here and be pretty successful, Vowles, Dunnemann, Nutley, Eagar, Withers and so on.
So yeah, he could turn out to be a great discovery but this isn't a signing which gives me much hope, in the context of the other off season moves we are / aren't making.
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| Quote: Douglas Black "That's a very pessimistic view. The only weakness compared to this year is Hill going and I'm not sure that makes us 4 places worse. Who has improved their squad?'"
It feels like we have this sort of discussion every year. Me or Wires71 will say our squad is lacking in quality and people will say but look at Saints, Wigan, Leeds they have shortcomings too, they are no stronger than us.
And then every year its one of them who wins the Grand Final and not us.
Next year will be the weakest Warrington pack I can remember (yes, even worse than when Anderson & Plange were here) and from that fact alone you can rule out the possibility of us being genuine contenders for the title.
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| Quote: shinymcshine "You'll love this then, and wonder how anyone can put him on the same level as Bryson Goodwin https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/rating-all-23-of-steve-prices-signings-as-warrington-coach-44877/rl'"
Jesus Christ…..looks like sniffing glue is still legal!
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| Quote: sally cinnamon "It feels like we have this sort of discussion every year. Me or Wires71 will say our squad is lacking in quality and people will say but look at Saints, Wigan, Leeds they have shortcomings too, they are no stronger than us.
And then every year its one of them who wins the Grand Final and not us.
Next year will be the weakest Warrington pack I can remember (yes, even worse than when Anderson & Plange were here) and from that fact alone you can rule out the possibility of us being genuine contenders for the title.'"
OK. Tell me who in the Anderson/Plange era was better than Cooper, Clark, Currie and not to mention Holmes ?
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| Quote: sally cinnamon "It feels like we have this sort of discussion every year. Me or Wires71 will say our squad is lacking in quality and people will say but look at Saints, Wigan, Leeds they have shortcomings too, they are no stronger than us.
And then every year its one of them who wins the Grand Final and not us.
Next year will be the weakest Warrington pack I can remember (yes, even worse than when Anderson & Plange were here) and from that fact alone you can rule out the possibility of us being genuine contenders for the title.'"
TBF I don't think that you two are lone voices this year and particularly as far as Saints are concerned.
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| Quote: 49er "OK. Tell me who in the Anderson/Plange era was better than Cooper, Clark, Currie and not to mention Holmes ?'"
To be fair, we did have some surprisingly decent forwards in 2001. Wood, Gee, Nutley, Nikau, McCurrie, Guissett & Chambers as well as Mercer and Kidwell at centre.
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| I can see us keeping Clark just for added depth in the forwards.
I'm happy with Currie and Holmes in the second row with Magoulias at 13.
Cooper and Mulhern starting props, With an inform Philbin, Bullock and Butler is not a bad forward option, it's more the experience and consistancy we are lacking. But if powell can get the best out of these and Doro etc we aren't looking really bad. But still think we've made an error letting Hill go, but next year will determine if it was a big mistake or not.
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| Is it actually confirmed that we're not adding another prop option? I didn't think we were signing any second-rowers until last week's news.
You can argue our front row is weaker than it has been for a while, but then we'll have to see how we fair when all our options are fit. I don't see any weaknesses at hooker, second row or loose. In fact our first-choices in all forward positions would walk in to most top SL teams. Our back-up props are Harrison, Bullock, Butler and at a push Hughes and J Clark. That back-up seems no worse (and certainly a lot better) than most of our SL teams in the SL era up to 2008. I wouldn't give it much hope under Price but we'll see how Powell plays it.
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| Quote: Kevin Turvey "To be fair, we did have some surprisingly decent forwards in 2001. Wood, Gee, Nutley, Nikau, McCurrie, Guissett & Chambers as well as Mercer and Kidwell at centre.'"
Pretty sure Gee was in the VDV era and both Nutley and Nikau had returned home prior to Anderson’s failed recruitment strategy. Included were Matt Sturm, Dean Busby, David Bates, Dale Laughton and Paul Noone.
Sid Domic and Darren Burns worked hard to hold it together.
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| Well, after 7 pages and most people having seemingly written him off before he's even set foot on English soil based on a highlights reel and no other knowledge of him whatsoever........welcome to Warrington Billy, all the best for your time in the primrose & blue.
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| Quote: 49er "OK. Tell me who in the Anderson/Plange era was better than Cooper, Clark, Currie and not to mention Holmes ?'"
For sure Daryl Clark is better than Jon Clark.
But the front row options were better: Fozzard, Hilton, Wood, Laughton.
Back row was Burns, Guisset and Domic with Noone and Marquet on the bench.
If we could reincarnate the 2002 pack in 2022 I would take Fozzard, Hilton, Wood, Burns and Domic straight away. Probably would have taken a shot on Noone for the bench.
I'd also take Briers and Nat Wood over Widdop and Williams.
And I'd take Blair over Boris, Battle Royale over Squid Game and Atomic Kitten over Little Mix.
Nostalgia eh.
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| Talking nonsense regarding Atomic Kitten
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