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| Quote: mark_m "I thought we had established the fact that just because something or someone works in Australia it doesn't necessarily work over here.'"
I think it is fair to say the NRL is more defence orientated than SL, so if he is going to be exposed as a poor carrier of the ball it would be there. I don't recall him having an issue with his ball retention there.
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| Quote: Latchford Wolvesfan "Good point well made, [sizeKing played on the Wing for Melbourne [/sizeand was very successful in playing in that position so is it not the fault of the coach for playing King out of position in the first place
Although King was playing out of position i don't believe he was a liability and it certainly isn't a fact.
I would also like to reiterate that saying Penny is a weak defender is my opinion and if you watch the academy games, he isn't that strong in defence there either.'"
[sizeNO HE DIDN'T.[/size
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| Quote: getdownmonkeyman "[sizeNO HE DIDN'T.[/size'"
My mistake, not Melbourne, New South Wales scored a Hat-trick in the 3rd game.
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| How can u say are defense is better without penny on the field when we got 64 put past us last week and lost the last 5 games
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| To be fair in a one on one defending position i'd have more confidence in King than Penny but I take your point
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| Suffice to say that King had one of his best games in a Wire shirt and hopefully can now show why we brought him to the club in the first place.
His try where he reached up/caught/placed down in one flowing motion is one if the seasons highlights for mine thus far.
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| i read here there would be endless singing etc what happened?????????????
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| Quote: Latchford Wolvesfan "None of last weeks tries were scored down King's wing and none this week either, Penny was the problem.'"
Yet last week he took most of the abuse, although manley from so called fans who had clearly been on the from god knows what time, wonder if they were singing his praises this week..........Fickle or what
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| Quote: Latchford Wolvesfan "
No not saying that at all, just saying our defense seems to be weaker with him playing IMO.'"
Lies, damn lies and statistics.
With Penny on the field this season we have conceded an average of 0.19 points per minute, which would work out at 15 points per game.
With Penny in the stands we have conceded an average of 0.47 points per minute, or 37.3 per game.
I'm not trying to claim Penny is defensively sound, or that King is weak. Just pointing out that stats can be used/twisted to show whatever you want them to.
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| You don't need statistics to see he can't remotely tackle one on one.
Still, I'd have him in the team imo
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| Quote: Dico "You don't need statistics to see he can't remotely tackle one on one.
Still, I'd have him in the team imo'"
wrong, so wrong.
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| Quote: Tony Catsmith "wrong, so wrong.'"
Humongously incorrect.
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| Quote: Thelonius "Lies, damn lies and statistics.
With Penny on the field this season we have conceded an average of 0.19 points per minute, which would work out at 15 points per game.
With Penny in the stands we have conceded an average of 0.47 points per minute, or 37.3 per game.
I'm not trying to claim Penny is defensively sound, or that King is weak. Just pointing out that stats can be used/twisted to show whatever you want them to.'"
In case you didn't know, IMO, means "In My Opinion" which is what i put at the end of my post, how can it be said im lying about my opinion
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| I apologise, the quote I should have used, and was thinking of when I posted was.
Quote: Latchford Wolvesfan "
Hicks is fine, reasonable defense and scores the tries, ive provided the facts and unfortunately for you, facts cant be denied.'"
The fact still remains that this season, as a team, on average we have conceded 2.5 times as many points with Penny off the pitch as we have on it. Stats can't lie can they!
And I am fully aware what IMO means, I have some of my own, but I prefer to keep them to myself.
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| Quote: Latchford Wolvesfan "Good point well made, King played on the Wing for Melbourne and was very successful in playing in that position so is it not the fault of the coach for playing King out of position in the first place
Although King was playing out of position i don't believe he was a liability and it certainly isn't a fact.
I would also like to reiterate that saying Penny is a weak defender is my opinion and if you watch the academy games, he isn't that strong in defence there either.'"
Loving that you quote posts, but take the bits out where people have a pop at you, and are completely correct about you.
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