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...we've lost 4.
Saints are top, and haven't need to break sweat

Closer to home, we've won 2.
A Godawful Widnes, and a jetlagged Wigan.
We're averaging TWO tries per game, when SL defences are poor..

ATM , I'd be happy scraping into the 8
Judging the poor level of SL in the last few years , there's no reason why we couldn't be fighting it out for the LLS. Where we are now, shows just how far we (and SL) has fallen

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Well exactly. If saints are the embodiment of talent and entertainment in SL 2018 then by god we need Hearn. Replace fireworks with allowing biff would be a good start.

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I'd sack Price now and put Hendo in charge.

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Quote: rubber duckie "I'd sack Price now and put Hendo in charge.'"

No way, Price is going take the club forward and is the right bloke for the job. Hendo, just look at how London are doing this year with a squad not as strong as last seasons. That’s all I need say. a026.gif

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I don't buy into the theory we are improving week on week and I'm not seeing any discernible progress in BMM and Roberts as they gain fitness. BMM is a penalty machine and error magnet and is better off on the bench until the opposition tires and Roberts is looking less up for it with every passing play.

We are gifting the initiative through penalties and errors and look knackered as a result. Coming away from our own line we couldn't make yardage in a fleet of chieftain tanks at the moment.

Next two games - absolute must wins. If we fail to get maximum points we need to start thinking about changing the coaching staff immediately.

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Apart from Huddersfield the defence has been good this season but we can't score tries & we don't have enough options in attack. Silly penalties & handling errors are adding to the burden on the defence & high lighting that you can't win games without the ball. At least we kept Barba quiet for most of the game but the last 15 minutes turned into an opposed training session for Saints as they started to find defensive gaps. We could do with a maverick player in the team for a start, a player who can turn a game on its head.

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Quote: ninearches "We could do with a maverick player in the team for a start, a player who can turn a game on its head.'"


I was rather under the impression we'd already signed one.

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Agree with Morrissey but ours seem to be a stealth like maverick an almost ghostly figure watching but not taking part

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Six games is nothing. Lack of pre-season for many of the players makes the six games even less important.

I’m judging nothing until later in the season.

If we’re in the Super 8s, great. If not, so what?! We don’t have a devine right to be in the eight. Leeds Cas Wigan Wakefield Saints Hull are all definitely better than us possibly Hudds too so you’re talking one more place and who’s to say none of the others are better than us? On paper I think Catalans are so there’s the eight gone!

All we need to do then is work hard to stay up again and after a year of seeing what’s what Price should be able to see who he wants to keep and all the many dead woods he wants to get rid of.

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I'm not unduly upset.

We are in the bottom half of the league and have played Leeds Wigan and Saints.

My worry going in to this season was our defence would be dreadful but apart from the Huddersfield game, on the whole its been encouraging.

our attack however is pitiful and that will cost us.
Do not underestimate how badly Tony Smith Let the quality of the team run down he should be blamed for that for eternity...

we are a rank ordinary side and will finish around 7th or 8th, it's what many of us predicted at the start of the season. I see no reason to think differently now.

I thought Roberts was showing signs of improvement. he looked a little lively and mixed up the kicking game.

by the way Murdoch Masila is a huge disappointment

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Quote: Psychedelic Casual "We don’t have a devine right to be in the eight. Leeds Cas Wigan Wakefield Saints Hull are all definitely better than us possibly Hudds too so you’re talking one more place and who’s to say none of the others are better than us? On paper I think Catalans are so there’s the eight gone!'"


Spot on. Though something must be very wrong if our moneybags backers can't put together a more competitive team and management structure than Wakefield and Huddersfield on their shoestring budgets.

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Quote: morrisseyisawire "
Quote: morrisseyisawire "We could do with a maverick player in the team for a start, a player who can turn a game on its head.'"


I was rather under the impression we'd already signed one.'"



I wouldn't have guessed !

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Quote: Wires71 "Spot on. Though something must be very wrong if our moneybags backers can't put together a more competitive team and management structure than Wakefield and Huddersfield on their shoestring budgets.'"

See there’s a topic for another thread: our recruitment since 2013.

Is rugby league recruitment about finding the right quality and type of players to conintue club trends, style and culture,, with good thought put into multiple candidates who may be given the chance to play in a club’s shirt? As well as identifying deficiencies in the squad and pinpointing the right players to rectify them?

Or is it a case of scrape the barrel because the salary cap is so low and hope for the best?

When we’ve signed players at the level of what we saw from the team of 2009-2013, Lineham Russell KBrown Hughes Crosby MBrown aren’t filling this team with players at the same level as Morley Carvell MMonaghan MKing LAnderson Solomona Hodgson, many of the youth players coming through aren’t at the same level as Briers Grix or Harrison. Westwood was one of the best players in the league at one point, he’s not anymore, but he’s a starter. Hill is going backwards and fast!

Yes Sandow was a great signing at the time and had he stayed “with it” you could argue we’d have been a different side. Clark is a very good player and this year’s signings may end up being good ones. Ratchford could be good in another position than FB. Currie coming through was fortunate. Other than that we are utterly average!

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Quote: morrisseyisawire "I don't buy into the theory we are improving week on week and I'm not seeing any discernible progress in BMM and Roberts as they gain fitness. BMM is a penalty machine and error magnet and is better off on the bench until the opposition tires and Roberts is looking less up for it with every passing play.

We are gifting the initiative through penalties and errors and look knackered as a result. Coming away from our own line we couldn't make yardage in a fleet of chieftain tanks at the moment.

Next two games - absolute must wins. If we fail to get maximum points we need to start thinking about changing the coaching staff immediately.'"

spot on...we are clueless in attack..a kick on the last seems to be ouronly option...we lose both games to cats and widnes the coaching staff should go

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Quote: sir adrian morley "we lose both games to cats and widnes the coaching staff should go'"


Great idea. Then what? Who takes over??

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