We're about to come good. We will make 8th spot on the last game. Then we will win in the final. Now then Wire Men let's be having you!

YOU ARE CUCKOO
Ninth on 18 pts
A drubbing at Wakefield and another at The DW.
This has been a season to forget, roll on 2018.

Of course throwing money around works: how many players who play for Cas Hull and Salford have been bought? And they're the top three sides this season

We have to survive the threat of relegation first! Let's forget 2017 once top-flight status is assured and a new coaching structure is in place. So probably not for a few seasons.

Really good point, there’s definitely something in that. I look forward to them all proving everyone wrong next season. Defo sick of all the moaning, looking forward to the middle8s and some close games against opposition of a similar standard, we’re not good enough this season for the top 8.

I do also wonder how many people, who live locally, have witnessed a number of our players out and about, not exactly behaving like professional athletes, like I have, this season.

If results had gone our way, would anyone care?

Good luck to all of them, I’ll be back next season no matter what.

Always raises its head when teams are doing poorly on the field. The players were out in Stockton Heath plenty last season, never really got a mention, just because they are losing games, you can't expect them to turn in to hermits. As long as they are sticking to club protocol in terms of when they can and cant go out there shouldn't be an issue

I often wonder why professional sportsmen have the need to drink alcohol during the season. I bet you wouldn't find real athletes having some beers in Stockton Heath a week before competition. Sinfield never touched it during the season. As for cocaine use - crazy

I agree although Rugby of both codes more than most sports I can think of seem to view having a beer as part and parcel of the game. Whether that view has changed in RU since they 'came out' I've no idea?

Plenty of footballers go on nights out, they just go to the places the plebs cant afford or aren't on the guest list so see nothing.

At same time, nothing to say the sportsperson is drinking alcohol on night out. Many people don't.

there's having a beer and then there's having a beer. Professional sportsmen and women at the top of their game know where the line is and they have the personal, in-built motivation and desire to succeed that means they never cross the line.

However, some people need keeping on the straight and narrow to allow them to fulfill their own potential. Having a team full of these folks is a recipe for mediocrity and failure (the drinking culture model). Having one or two questionable characters (usually the most talented) is usually OK as long as they are managed properly by strong leaders. (see Lee Briers).

It was the manner of which I saw them that wasn’t good, right after the home defeat to Wigan, eating pub lunches with chips, beers all round. It did make me think ‘is this how Sonny Bill Williams spends his Saturday afternoon’.

But who am I to judge, I’m in the same pub in Stockton Heath 100 times more often than they are!

Notable absentees - Gidley, Russell, Lineham, Ratchford, Clark. I’d make Clark captain, Ratchford vice captain.

I think that you are right there needs to be a self regulated reasonable limit and or an element of control whether that's from the club, senior pro's or restrictive times being observed such as quaffing bottles of aftershave limited to after match dinners