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You won't get a better chance of beating Wigan all year with all the 'kids' they are playing

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Wire 19 man squad: Ryan Atkins, Matty Blythe, Kevin Brown, Daryl Clark, Mike Cooper, Brad Dwyer, Rhys Evans, Kurt Gidley, Jack Hughes, Jack Johnson, Tom Lineham, Harvey Livett, Dec Patton, Joe Philbin, Matty Russell, Andre Savelio, Ashton Sims, Joe Westerman, Ben Westwood.

I'd Go with:

Gids
Lineham
Livett
Blyth
Johnson

Brown
Patton

Cooper
Clark
Sims
Savelio
Hughes
Westerman

Dwyer
Westwood
Philbin
Atkins.

And I'll tell you for why. Evans need to pull his finger out, Big time. Whereas Atkins needs to realise that he's not all that and a bag of crisp, as well as realising he isn't above being dropped. The pair of them need a wake up call and this would/should shock them both into bucking their ideas up.

Atkins is on the bench over Evans as out of the pair of them he is the most likely to hit a line and score. He can come on and allow Livett to drop into the back row if needs be, as can Blythe.

The less said about Russell the better.

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Quote: moving on... "Wire 19 man squad

That would literally be the worst back 5 in super league... have you actually seen Blythe play because he is awful. I could see dropping Evans for Livett because he is terrible as well, and it would give a youngster some experience.

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Quote: Ron "That would literally be the worst back 5 in super league... have you actually seen Blythe play because he is awful. I could see dropping Evans for Livett because he is terrible as well, and it would give a youngster some experience.'"



We currently have to worst back five anyway so why not.

If you care to re-read the point of my post its not the fact I think they're better players but that our two 'first choice' centres need a massive wake up call.

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Quote: DemonUK "You won't get a better chance of beating Wigan all year with all the 'kids' they are playing'"


You mean 2 debutantes and a guy on his second game.

As opposed to Warrington playing with a few guys with only a couple of first team games played? Although the injuries to the Warrington squad are no excuse for the performances at the start of the season, it's fair to say we are missing more strike power and experience than Wigan at the moment.

Can never win on this argument... if Wigan win it's because they have strength in depth with a wonderful youth system, if they lose it's because they had to field kids instead a couple of the regular threequarters.

Interestingly Wigan still have more internationals on the field on Thursday.

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Quote: moving on... "We currently have to worst back five anyway so why not.

If you care to re-read the point of my post its not the fact I think they're better players but that our two 'first choice' centres need a massive wake up call.'"


Evans doesn't need a wake up call, he is just rubbish.

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Quote: Ron "Evans doesn't need a wake up call, he is just rubbish.'"


So if you think he's Rubbish then why are you arguing about me thinking we should drop him for Blythe who you also claim is 'awful'? If they are both rubbish/awful then what does it matter who is picked?

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I'd be very surprised if it wasn't

Gidley

Russell (Johnson if unfit)
Evans
Atkins
Lineham

Brown
Patton

Cooper
Clark
Sims
Hughes
Savelio
Westerman

Dwyer
Philbin
Westwood
Livett

if Ratchford was back I would probably look to give him a run in the centre ahead of Evans, but the squad just simply isn't healthy enough / big enough to make wholesale changes at this stage. Evans, for all his faults, is better than Blythe.

Hopefully that right edge defence has been doing plenty of work this week, Am I right in thinking Hughes is playing on the left currently? Is iot worth him moving over to the right?

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Quote: easyWire "You mean 2 debutantes and a guy on his second game.

As opposed to Warrington playing with a few guys with only a couple of first team games played? Although the injuries to the Warrington squad are no excuse for the performances at the start of the season, it's fair to say we are missing more strike power and experience than Wigan at the moment.

Can never win on this argument... if Wigan win it's because they have strength in depth with a wonderful youth system, if they lose it's because they had to field kids instead a couple of the regular threequarters.

Interestingly Wigan still have more internationals on the field on Thursday.'"


Seriously? Missing more Strike power than :-

Sam Tomkins - Manfredi - Gildart - Tierney - Burgess - Bateman (Plus Sutton & McCollorum Which I don't class as Strike power but Experience etc.)

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I agree to an extent about the centres needing a kick up the botty (well the whole back line really). However, you wouldn't have an inexperienced, or non match fit player against Gelling would you? So for me, Atkins has to stay in the starting line up. Also IMO, Livett has shown he can more than hold his own. Id swap him for Evans.

Looking at Wigans squad, this is a great opportunity to get our season back on track......by god we need to.

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At least we will have the benefit of Russell's scoots from dummy half this week. He is surprisingly effective at breaking the defensive line.

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Quote: moving on... "So if you think he's Rubbish then why are you arguing about me thinking we should drop him for Blythe who you also claim is 'awful'? If they are both rubbish/awful then what does it matter who is picked?'"


Because Atkins is comfortably better than both whether in bad form or not... and livett is young, with potential, he would benefit from the experience, and cannot be any worse than Evans.

Whats the point in playing Blythe who is 28 years old and awful? He isn't going to suddenly improve.

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Our backline worries me, on the defensive side, but I think we have the advantage in the pack and the halves. I'm getting the feeling of a high scoring close one.

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Anything but a comfortable home win for Wire I will
consider as a moral victory for Wigan under the circumstance they are presently in.

A close win spells little or no improvement from the diabolical I've seen over the last 3 SL games.

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We've lost 3 games by 10 pts or less, not pleasing, but far from diabolical.

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