Good job most of the Saints fans forgot they were playing today so they didn't have to witness it.

See what you done there lol.

At least they had their *I was there* moment....Walsh made his annual run with the ball.

Nice to be called out again for a response.

I'll blame it on us being pants if I may? We're just not very good anymore and we get worse pretty much every season. The whole club is toxic from top to bottom. Eamon McManus is deluded and has created a situation that is very close to King Lear, for those on here who will get the Shakespeare reference. Every major position at Saints is filled with a former player or coach who lacks the credentials to be doing the role. Our CEO is a non-business man hired as a youth team coach and now running the club. Paul Sculthorpe is in charge of it's commercial performance, Tommy Martyn the catering. Ade Gardner is the physio, Paul Wellens the 'Shouty waterboy', Sean Long the defensive coach ( ) and Cunningham the most out of his depth head coach ever. McManus and the culture he has created at the club just erode it's greatness by the day. Our recruitment is one of the mysterious grey areas that no one ever admits they're responsible for, but presumably one of those unqualified people listed earlier are. It's not even Aldi/Lidl standard, we're begging the Polski Sklep for handouts. Jack Owens couldn't get in Widnes's side yet Cunningham said he was an amazing signing. Someone actually signed off the Peyroux signing and someone thought signing Lama Tasi was worth it too. We're a big club in name only these days, lacking the ambition or the competence to compete for trophies again. Unless there is a major overhaul, the club will never move forwards either. It's very ridiculous that your vastly superior players still get red-vee fever and lose to us these days.

I must give Hull some credit though, they did okay today. Saints would however have lost to any SL side today, not just Hull.

How sharper than a serpent's tooth!

Fair play to Saddened, he always calls it how he sees it and generally I agree with most things he says apart
from us panning saints (which certainly doesn't happen at home).

This year Warrington have been relying greatly on te dummy half running of Russell, Penny, Lineham and Clarke. We have done more dummy half runs than any other team in Super League with 315 whilst Saints are one of the least to utilise dummy half runners with just 195.

I look forward to being told I didn't understand what you were saying and that the above is exactl what you was on about.

Just remember how tight the last Hull game was which we lost in the goal kicking department ,as with Super Stains. They put up an excellent show & should be ignored at our peril.

Only your last sentence is utter tosh, otherwise I agree completely.
Our dummy running had been utilised well against A tired defence of late. The variations of the runners, with speed at the ptb, is what has bamboozled the opposition.
Disappointingly before the injury to Sandow, our go forward with ball in hand was almost nil. Only Sandow, and at times Clark and Russell seamed willing to run at defenses with the ball in hand.

Roby won't run from.dummy against a set defence which is hard now they seem to be getting.dominated by bigger packs. This is certainly one of the worst saintscteams I can recall, I cannot believe they beat us this season already.

Don't really want em to change. They cannot really get rid of kc after building a statue. Of him outside of stadium. They will do everything and anything before they sack him. They are in ways suffering dame season wevhad last year but with the added problem of what to do about kc similar situation to one we had with Cullen

Be interesting to see if they can turn it around or if both problems will mean a further decline and saints struggling to make top8 over next few seasons. Let alone top4!!

Poundshop Jack Black won't be sacked. To save face for both him and the club he'll be moved 'upstairs' with a new coach coming in to work under him before he sneaks away quietly. Similar to Daryl Powell at Leeds when they brought Tony Smith in.

He probably needs someone over him!! I think that on the ground working with the players is where he would be best suited. I think it's the bigger decisions and more tactical side of things is where he is not up to scratch.