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No. Good teams win throphies but great teams retain them - down to you Wigan.

Definitely the cup.

Although attention now turns to winning the GF as we've done the cup.

Also the attendance for both our cup wins were bigger than Saturday's so it's still the bigger occasion and to be honest gets more mainstream press coverage.

No. There's nothing like Wembley.
I remember Alan Tait of Widnes calling the premiership a "Micky Mouse Cup" when they won it - I've always thought that, but Sky TV have changed the importance of it for most.

Does help when Wembley holds around 15,000 more, so not really sure how thats even a point.

The Wembley weekend is far better as an event, but the GF is a more prestigious and regardless of how you spin it, its still the main prize. IMO id rather have what we have, the challenge cup is great but its the 2nd prize. We even topped the league to prove we are worthy champions. However neither of us should be jealous of each other, we have both had success and both look like we will challange again.

Yes. It takes a special team to retain a cup, but the best team of the year is rightly crowned champions. I want Warrington to be the best team throughout a season, not just in knock-out rugby.

From the point of view of history I would have a Super League win, the Super League is the ultimate prize and it is much harder to win. If I was a player I would rather have one Super League title than two Challenge Cups, as a reflection of having achieved something in my career.

However as a fan, I think the 'occasion' of Wembley is slightly better than Old Trafford which always seems to be over too soon for me. Maybe it would be different if Wire won it but I always think watching your team in the GF would be a case of nervously thinking "will we win it, will we win it, yay we won it, now time to go home before the queue for the tram gets too big". Old Trafford seems to be more the players' event than the supporters' event.

So as a fan I would take two Challenge Cup wins at Wembley over one Grand Final win at Old Trafford, but I do think the Grand Final is a far better achievement, so if I was a player I would want that.

Sally, do you think Old Trafford may seem less of an event because (a) it is 100 years or so younger than the Challenge Cup Final & (b) it is a lot closer so can be treated as a normal away game rather than a full day trip out?

Nail on the head there for me.

The whole romance of the challenge cup is about the day out at Wembley, and it is a fantastic competition to win.

But on a competitive front, champions of super league is a much higher acclaim.

Then again, topping the league is the hardest challenge of all and that gets the least acclaim.


FWIW, I know a lot of you won't feel the same. But i'd rather win the super league once than the challenge cup twice. I'm not trying to belittle your achievement but who have you had to beat? Granted you can only beat whats put in front of you and fair play for doing so, but if you offered them to the players which do you think they'd rather achieve?

No offense but the likes of hudders (in great form) and Leeds and Wigan all of whom were punching there usual best seems harder than Hull Kr, a team of Leeds youngsters and Saints, who never mind didn't have half backs, they didn't turn up.

I would rather have the two challenge cup's. The whole feeling off waking up at 5am to board a coach and not returning till about 10pm makes it a better experience. It is a bigger achievement winning the grand final but Wembley is better than it.

Gutted thought this was about wives

I don't think it's the age, I think it's partly to do with it being closer but also partly because the Grand Final here doesn't seem to be given the same treatment that the NRL Grand Final is....I do think we could build it up a bit better. Obviously I've never seen Warrington in it but I've been to loads of Grand Finals as a neutral and the occasion all seems a bit rushed compared to the Challenge Cup final. I think the fans get slightly short changed.

However I'm not sure what else they could do, if they brought the kick off earlier and made a bit of extra razzmatazz it would just be like copying the Challenge Cup final, so maybe its best being as it is now, the Challenge Cup final is the game's flagship event, and the Super League Grand Final is the ultimate prize at the end of the season.

The funny thing is, if someone said to me now, would you swap winning the Challenge Cup in 2011 and 2012, or nothing in 2011 and the Super League Grand Final in 2012, I'm not sure which I would take, because the Challenge Cup wins have been so good I would like more of it, and doing 4 in a row is starting to get into history territory. The other bizarre fear in my mind is if we win a Grand Final soon, I might lose some of my enthusiasm for RL, because that will mean we've done everything, it would be nice to be a top side, winning Challenge Cups, and always having the Grand Final as the one that's eluded us, a bit like the Champions League was for United fans before 1999.....as long as we eventually do win it!

makes me laugh this a couple of years ago Wigan fans would be telling us at every opportunity that they won the Challenge cup 8 times on the bounce...everyone knows this ...no one knows that they won the league even more times on the bounce because the romance AND the occasion has and always will be with the Challenge Cup especially at Wembley.....

And How Bizare is it that the Same Wigan fans that havent been to Wembley for FIFTEEN long painful hurtfull years are now telling us its an easy competition to win..!!! well have a go at it if it so easy.....

its just a knockout competition....

I mean its not like you can..... say oh i dont know....do something like.... lose in the first round and then have another go against lesser opposition to get back in...is it......

knockout my ar$e

I had the same conversation earlier on tonight I'd have the same again next year ...no problem...