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Quote: Wire Yed "If he had any integrity he'd walk away; and TS should stop trying to convince himself or lying to us as it isn't working.'"


Agreed, he just doesn't seem to be up to the rigours of professional rugby league, I am sure he has been a good player in his day but not any more.

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Warrington offered him a 2 year contract and whether we think he is crap or not that contract will have to be honoured. He has kids and if he leaves us he's unlikely to earn the same money next year in an alternative job so he is unlikely to walk away.

Of course we could just push him out and say we aren't honouring the second year of his contract but if he sues us then not only will we end up paying up his contract anyway but also paying a lot of solicitors that would get in on the act and make money from us, as well as just creating bad publicity and bad feeling.

The best thing to do is make the best of a bad situation, OK he's not the player he was a few years ago when he was a world class forward, we made a bad decision on scouting, but try and get the best he's got out of him for the rest of the time he's here. Rauhihi wasn't quite what we expected either and we ended up keeping him for quite a few seasons but by the end he'd made a decent fist of his time with us.

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Quote: i hate pies "Asotasi is the worst signing I have ever seen us make. He is garbage. When you finish the game with asotasi and wood, two props who only run sideways, it doesn't bode well. Absolutely sure, get rid'"


Cant argue with this at all, what has happened to Wood this year, he has been garbage and Asotasi is a joke!

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Arguably, woody's season has never got going due to injury

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Agreed, I expected so much from Woody too, last season was arguably his best.

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Quote: hesford "The only worse signings i can think of are brian butler and dave weavill both props'"


It does seem to be a particular problem regarding props. One minute they can be world beaters but once they lose their aggression/ mojo through injury or fear, their effectiveness has gone.

I cant however agree with you regarding Dave Weavill. I always thought he was a worker and trier, his only problem was a lack of size.

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Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "Arguably, woody's season has never got going due to injury'"

I'd agree with this. He's been poor when he's played but he has been injured a lot. I'm willing to give him another shot next season. I'll give Roy a piggyback to Aus if that's what it takes to get rid though.

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Big Roy had an excellent end to the season.

Can't help but wonder if he struggled all season because of the operation be had and it's taken him until now to get himself right?

Hopefully he can kick in from here for next season!

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Agree with that thought he made a difference when on pitch last night.

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Asotasi has played well in the business end of the season.

Hopefully there was a reason for his disappointing form earlier on other than just him being past it and now he can kick on because if he plays like that next season it will be like a new front row signing.

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Lets not lie, he's had a very forgettable season, for the vast majority he's been a passenger.
Last night he played well and it would remiss of we to slate that.

I've been really thinking about his comments and I think I've finally figured out his comments about learning to play a new game.

He knows we play an offloading, passing game and I think, may be wrong, he feels pressured to be part of this, to a point in which he passes it because he thinks that's what we all do.
He throws some right hospital passes, I think he hasn't 'got it' it's not sunk in that yes we do pass it but it isn't a necessity, we don't want everyone playing like a halfback.
He's looked very basic last few games and by that I mean as a forward he's just received it and driven forward, looked for yards and not a pass or even an offload, as a prop I can accept that, that drive he took in last night and skittled players out the way...YES ROY DO THAT, if that's all he does and never offloads it ever again then I'd offer him another year on top of his current contract.

All I want is effort and desire and last night you had that in buckets.

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What he did better than anyone else Yed was to get up off the floor quicker for ptb. 1.5-2 seconds and he was up.

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As a few have said he's upped his game in these last few weeks, and let's hope if he's here next year (and I expect he will be) that he performs as a basic forward and skittles more of the opposition in the same manner.
I'll have to watch the game agains to see how good his performance really was or whether it was just 'good'. Still a quota spot though....

Sims coming in (6'4'' and 17 stone) and Trent leaving (6'4'' and 16.5 stone). Really hope shows his mongrel side - along with Ben W. We need it.

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I Roy did really well last night. At a guess I reckon he was our highest average metre maker in the forwards. If he can continue his upturn in form we'll have a really strong front row and interchange next season.

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As stated previously in this thread, credit where credit is due, he had arguably his best game last night and played well. That was pretty much the Asotasi we thought we had signed in the first place. Yes there is that difficult to quantify 'settling in' period when you travel half way round the world to ply your trade in a new environment but let's not forget he has been carried by the team all season and has now 'turned up' when in sniffing distance of a Grand Final.

If last nights performance is s sign of what we can expect to see week in week out next year then I can live with that, otherwise I still maintain that we get rid.

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