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| I think the 93/94 backline would comfortably hold their own. As has been said, the pack would run out of steam againt the current setup.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "You need to add Paul Deacon as he is listed as no. 19
I would certainly take Farrell, O'Carroll, Mossop and Goulding.
If I could guarantee a fit Karl Pryce then I'd also take him, but it's not happened in the two previous seasons and there's a rumour that he has dislocated his shoulder in pre-season training.
Charnley was the big improver IMO last season. He played really well in the reserves despite still being qualified at U18 academy.'"
I had included Deacon in your 17 as inter-change hooker type bench spot. Do you not think he'll be in your first choice 17?
Karl Pryce and fit go together about as much as Katie Pryce and celibacy do. He'll be as much use as he has been for the last two seasons - why was he given a contract extension?
Farrell against McCarthy is a toss-up but Mossop rather than Vinnie Anderson is being silly.
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| I think Coops is going to have a big season and with TS prefering one prop on the bench rather than two I can see Woody having trouble getting in the 17.
With the likes of Grix, Clarke, McCarthy, Atkins, Woody and Kev Penny also in the squad I don't see why we can't have a really good year. More quality in this side than we've had since the start of SL imo, and at last a proper scrum half not a hooker who can play a bit of 7.
Mathers
Hicks
Bridge
King
Riley
Briers
Myler
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Monaghan
Carvell
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| Quote: Paul Youane "I had included Deacon in your 17 as inter-change hooker type bench spot. Do you not think he'll be in your first choice 17?
Karl Pryce and fit go together about as much as Katie Pryce and celibacy do. He'll be as much use as he has been for the last two seasons - why was he given a contract extension?'"
I personally think that Deacon will be first choice scrum half with Leululai interchanging with Piggy at hooker, or at the very least on the bench like you say. At times last year we looked lost and clueless in the opposition's 20 and lacked a kicking game throughout the season- we had the Jekyll and Hyde version in Tim Smith who was terrible at times, and neither of our halves (Tomkins and Leululai) can really control a game. This is where I see Deacon fitting in well.
On Karl Pryce, I don't know why he has been given a contract tbh, none of us Wigan fans do. But one thing is for sure Lenegan really does rate Karl, actually saying he has the potential to be "world-class". Somehow I don't see it.
By the way before going too off topic with Wigan discussion ..
I agree with you guys that you probably do have the deepest squad depth other than Leeds and can certainly see you being top 4 if not higher especially with a coach like Tony Smith.
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| Don't expect Deacon to deliver the killer pass. He will kick teams to death, especially with the short kicking game.
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[quote="Odemwingie":34o3cs52] I hope his career is over.(regarding danny mcguires injury 2010 play offs)[/quote:34o3cs52]
[quote="Ewwenorfolk":34o3cs52] I'm glad McGuire got injured, hope he's out for about 10 months[/quote:34o3cs52]
[quote="Bulls4Champs2010":34o3cs52]Price, Civ, Beaver, Moz and Wiki. Peacock is not in the catagory of these special players.[/quote:34o3cs52]
[quote="McLaren_Field":34o3cs52] To be fair, their teams are also inconsequential to their own fans judging by the amount of traffic that all the other boards get [/quote:34o3cs52]
[quote="Warrington Wolf":34o3cs52]If you win the weekly rounds then without doubt you are the champions.[/quote:34o3cs52]: |
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| Quote: Paul Youane "Come the start of the season it is likely that the following players whom will all be hoping to be playing regular first grade this year will all be sat outside of the first choice 17
the rhinos are in good nick
Vinnie Anderson- matt diskin 4 gf winners rings, harry sunderland winner
Chris Riley - ryan bailey 4 gf winners rings
Kevin Penny - ian kirke 3 gf winners rings
Simon Grix - jay pitts
John Clarke - kallum watkins
Tyrone McCarthy - paul mcshane
then you mention:
Matty Blythe
Lee Mitchell
leeds have simon worrell, dane manning, ben jones bishop, luke ambler and our 2 new belting signings from nl1 kyle amor and mike coadey, all with duel reg for 2010
you are looking good but you dont have that kind of depth
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[quote="Rogues Gallery":xjc47q2r]Wire - the enigma. They could finish top or eighth, who knows.[/quote:xjc47q2r]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_7749.jpg |
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| Well its no disgrace being compared to Leeds.
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| Yes, Leeds have got the strongest squad, but comparing Vinny Anderson, Penny and Riley to 3 forwards is pushing it a bit, in fact it's ridiculous.
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| Quote: sgtwilko "the rhinos are in good nick
Vinnie Anderson- matt diskin 4 gf winners rings, harry sunderland winner
Chris Riley - ryan bailey 4 gf winners rings
Kevin Penny - ian kirke 3 gf winners rings
Simon Grix - jay pitts
John Clarke - kallum watkins
Tyrone McCarthy - paul mcshane
then you mention
I'm not going to go on saying that Warrington have more depth than Leeds etc etc however the fact that it is Leeds' depth that we are being compared with is a positive for Warrington.
I will though pick you up on a couple of points:
Matt Diskin will be in your first choice 17 so throwing him in the mix here is mis-leading. I also note that you are comparing like for like, in your list of players only Watkins is a back and 4 are out and out front rowers whilst another has the potential to move up there from the second row.
Not sure about the dual registration situation and whether that adds depth however I do know that Worrall and Jones-Bishop have gone on loan for the season and cannot be recalled so do not add any depth to Leeds squad for 2010.
I'll repeat, the fact that we are being compared to Leeds' squad depth is a positive for me.
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| Well that'll teach me to stop waffling or learn to type quicker.
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| Quote: Bob-Marley "
25 Paul McShane - HK
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thought he was great as Ted Bovis in Hi De Hi, not seen much of him since though
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[quote="Odemwingie":34o3cs52] I hope his career is over.(regarding danny mcguires injury 2010 play offs)[/quote:34o3cs52]
[quote="Ewwenorfolk":34o3cs52] I'm glad McGuire got injured, hope he's out for about 10 months[/quote:34o3cs52]
[quote="Bulls4Champs2010":34o3cs52]Price, Civ, Beaver, Moz and Wiki. Peacock is not in the catagory of these special players.[/quote:34o3cs52]
[quote="McLaren_Field":34o3cs52] To be fair, their teams are also inconsequential to their own fans judging by the amount of traffic that all the other boards get [/quote:34o3cs52]
[quote="Warrington Wolf":34o3cs52]If you win the weekly rounds then without doubt you are the champions.[/quote:34o3cs52]: |
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| Quote: Teessidewire "Yes, Leeds have got the strongest squad, but comparing Vinny Anderson, Penny and Riley to 3 forwards is pushing it a bit, in fact it's ridiculous.'"
its about strength in depth? all clubs will have different positions covered in their squads. i think our squad is stronger than yours due to the quality of player leeds can bring in. its rediculous to think all squads will have like for like postions covered out side the first pick 17
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[quote="Odemwingie":34o3cs52] I hope his career is over.(regarding danny mcguires injury 2010 play offs)[/quote:34o3cs52]
[quote="Ewwenorfolk":34o3cs52] I'm glad McGuire got injured, hope he's out for about 10 months[/quote:34o3cs52]
[quote="Bulls4Champs2010":34o3cs52]Price, Civ, Beaver, Moz and Wiki. Peacock is not in the catagory of these special players.[/quote:34o3cs52]
[quote="McLaren_Field":34o3cs52] To be fair, their teams are also inconsequential to their own fans judging by the amount of traffic that all the other boards get [/quote:34o3cs52]
[quote="Warrington Wolf":34o3cs52]If you win the weekly rounds then without doubt you are the champions.[/quote:34o3cs52]: |
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| Quote: Paul Youane "
I will though pick you up on a couple of points
i think you a wrong, i think leeds will go with a bench of 4 big lads in the big games. ali, eastwood, burgess and any one of bailey, kirke or amor.
Quote: Paul Youane "
I also note that you are comparing like for like'"
no i wasnt see my above post
Quote: Paul Youane "
I do know that Worrall and Jones-Bishop have gone on loan for the season and cannot be recalled so do not add any depth to Leeds squad for 2010.
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pretty sure your wrong on this but like you i havent seen the contracts so we are both just guessing, my point was we are also loaning out a bunch of lads who are cracking players, i could have also mentioned we sold/released gibson, broughton, tansey and lost lee smith to scramble and peep. as well as having a great squad we are a big feeder club for sl.
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the fact that we are being compared to Leeds' squad depth is a positive for me.'" its your own fans who are comparing?
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| I do worry if we lose Carvell and/or Morley for any period of time.
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| Interesting reading on the Warrington Guardian website today.
All though most of our fans don't seem to rate Lee Mitchell, he gets a special mention in the Andrew Johns interview.
In the League Expreess last week Tyrone McCarthy was nominated as our Rookie to watch.
Of the 2 who would you pick in your 17? based on what we've seen.
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