As anyone bothered to actually write to the club regarding any of this.

Not yet but we will be talking to the club about this soon.

Mmmmm. this sounds vaguely familiar. Didn't Wigan try to do something similar fairly recently? i can't quite remember what they called themselves. It was all started with good intentions, but after a short while they were joined by a few 'wannabes' that just wanted to fight. Now what were they called?
Things like this are doomed to failure, regardless of good intentions.

I understand why you would compare use to the 'Wigan Ultras' but we're not trying to be a gang or group. We want the fans unified as one. What we don't want is a gang mentalities. If you believe it's doom to failure then can you help us go down a route, which you believe wont fail and will help the overall match day experience. We want people opinions and feedback and we're willing to listen to suggestions, which will help us improve.

Not that it bothers me but songs with profanities will instantly turn the club against you ie 'Famous Wigan Rugby' & '(x place) is a sh-thole, i want to go home'.

To Teesside, i think Wigan's problem was creating a name for a gang of supporters, straight away it splits the fans.
If this is just simply organising fans that want to sing into a section i can't see the trouble.

There are fans who want to sing but won't if no one else is, herding them together is a good way, possibly leading to a domino effect.

If it's just about singing and not 'look at me superfan', good luck to them.

I am sure nobody has any ill intentions, but little things like 'We'll sing on our own' which I have heard quite a few times at games this year just creates an us/them mentality. But I hope to be proved wrong. Good luck with it all, I guess it is just each to their own.

I think songs like that are just out of frustration. If a group of people are trying to get something going and everyone around is stood like a wet chip then maybe that song is just letting everyone around know.

ANYWAY It seems there is no cringy name, I was stood near and the group was a mix of young and old, no behavior issues either. Just fans who are sick of feeling like the odd ones out.

As long as there is no gang mentality, as just people stood there to sing I think that's a cracking idea. I'd like to see some colour in there as well, might influence those in the east to join in and the colour might make the club sit up and take note.

I may get slated rotten for this but I also like the idea of 'reclaiming the zoo' if that little corner could get going as well all know how the Fletch would that would bring some passion back to the club, Keep It up those who are trying, I'll be sure to join in when I'm there.

From the halfway line I couldn't even hear the drums, or the singing from the supporters with them. Possibly time for people to abandon the drums so that they can stand and sing where they want, rather than being way over near the East Stand.

As a lot of my friends were on holiday, I had some other people around who got on my nerves including the guy who kept saying "not good enough" for Chris Riley, how can he say that when he's one of our top scorers.

Pre game music: It's good to have some build up music, but it's not needed right up until the players come out. The players come out and then there's more music, which isn't needed as the crowd should be making the noise and the players hearing it. It just doesn't allow the crowd to get the atmosphere going.

Try music: Another area where you want the players to hear the crowd, on away games there's no try music for us of course, and because of that it's better. Playing the same try scoring music as well starts becoming boring.

The constant moaning about the ref: It got a bit much on Sunday, on most plays of the ball the crowd were shouting for offside. Actually shout when you can see that players aren't getting back to the line.

Half time music/entertainment: The kids matches are the best entertainment, and it allows youngsters to play at The HJ.

Full Time: Takin' Care Of Business is better than playing Paradise, which is slow to play as a victory song. Is This the Way to Amarillo was good at the time a few years back. And stop the announcer from saying"As they approach the South/East/North Stand make some noise etc."

The shouts of 'offside' may actually be good news. Maybe we've got a few disaffected Saints or Widnes fans watching us. Come on Saddened, you know it makes sense.

its hard wired into them..... when saddened was at the Wire v Bradford game at the weekend he wouldn't have been able to help himself 'OFFSIDE'... 'FOOOOOOOOORWARD' every 5 mins... nailed on.

I think we will win him over in the end, he must be sick to death of waiting for that cladding.

Maybe because as mentioned before there aren't that may of them, the idea is for them to start attracting people over? If where you were stood was full of people making stupid comments and annoying you then why don't you move over to them and start something positive like they are trying to do?

This is why away games will always be better than home matches

btw can I just point out to the PC fun Police that the team song for the players after a big win is 'TF and the Wire'!