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two defeats to Catalan now, if we get beat by st helens aswell in the cup it'll prove we STILL aren't much cop under burgess. can't just go beating the mid teams.

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If we are being honest as fans we want an improvement on last year, best of the rest after Wigan and saints will be too much this year in my opinion. I want us to compete and to blood a few youngsters who will only get better with game time. Patience is the key after the sheeite we've been served up the past few years.

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Quote: DizzyHeights "If we are being honest as fans we want an improvement on last year, best of the rest after Wigan and saints will be too much this year in my opinion. I want us to compete and to blood a few youngsters who will only get better with game time. Patience is the key after the sheeite we've been served up the past few years.'"


Besides one blip in 2016, its been about 10 years of mediocrity. There is no 'patience' to ask of us anymore. People except us to be happy because it's not 2022 levels of sheet. Which is a load of crap personally. Another year of promise and change, and we're still middling.

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Next week it looks like Musgrove & Philbin out. Never know if Vaughan might pick up a ban. Best get a few boys back.

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Disappointing to start both halves so poorly because there was a lot to like in what followed. I didn't necessarily seee what Tai offered compared to Wrench; Wrench has got pace and very good left-to-right hands; could have come in handy in those last ten minutes.

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Quote: DizzyHeights "If we are being honest as fans we want an improvement on last year, best of the rest after Wigan and saints will be too much this year in my opinion. I want us to compete and to blood a few youngsters who will only get better with game time. Patience is the key after the sheeite we've been served up the past few years.'"


1955 how much time do we need.

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I can't decide if today showed progress or not. Games like that last year we just went out with a whimper, think the Wigan cup and league games. At least we have seemed to start developing a backbone, but like karetaker says, I'm getting sick of giving them props for doing what any aspiring team should do.

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Quote: WireWireWire "Besides one blip in 2016, its been about 10 years of mediocrity. There is no 'patience' to ask of us anymore. People except us to be happy because it's not 2022 levels of sheet. Which is a load of crap personally. Another year of promise and change, and we're still middling.'"


It's not like flicking a switch and the light suddenly turns on. Under any new coach, the team has to be given time to implement new ideas and structures. There's plenty of improvement to be made, but I'm seeing improvement and a bit of fight which I haven't seen for a good few years.

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I think the big positive was that we managed to get back in the game but an 18 point deficit in such a short time must have come as much of a shock to the players as it did to the fans. We must be encouraged by the resilience & it's great to see the young lads improving.

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Quote: karetaker "Ratchford 18th man'"

Nicholson.

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Quote: karetaker "1955 how much time do we need.'"


As a club we should know that the academy will win us leagues, not the charlatans brought over in the past from the nrl. If burgess sorts this out I have no doubt we will be in a far better position than we have been in when he took over. We are spreading the ball about and at least trying it might not happen over night, it rarely does but let's keep the faith

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Everyone is saying we give an 18 point start that beat us…
Partly right.

Not only did we give 18 (3 try) unanswered points from the go in the first half, but also 16 unanswered (3 try) unanswered points in the 2nd half too! (Correct me if I’m wrong, trying to use my memory of the match as opposed to looking it up).

The defence line speed was the slowest I’ve seen from any team this season, and that includes Hull FC.

That was utter dog shat from Warrington. Utter lazy performances, players thinking they’d won SL in March yet again.

The reality is, that performance duplicated at Leeds will see us well beaten again and smashed at St Helens.

34 unanswered aggregate of points scored against us in the opening 25 minutes of rugby in both half’s.

Utterly disgraceful. Pathetic even.
The right side defence frailties that was blown out by Salford and jumped on by every team we’ve played since, has been a go to shambles all season and not addressed.

In attack the only player positive 100% attitude today was from Hayes King and Currie.

The most disappointing is Thewlis, who suddenly has lost his mojo. Never backing himself down the wing. He was a favourite of mine. This season, he’s gone, one great try against London!

A reality check Wire…you’re nowhere near where you think you are.

The only team positive in the whole game from Wire, was they at least found away to get back into the game and put themselves in a position to win it.

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Quote: rubber duckie "Everyone is saying we give an 18 point start that beat us…
Partly right.

Not only did we give 18 (3 try) unanswered points from the go in the first half, but also 16 unanswered (3 try) unanswered points in the 2nd half too! (Correct me if I’m wrong, trying to use my memory of the match as opposed to looking it up).

The defence line speed was the slowest I’ve seen from any team this season, and that includes Hull FC.

That was utter dog shat from Warrington. Utter lazy performances, players thinking they’d won SL in March yet again.

The reality is, that performance duplicated at Leeds will see us well beaten again and smashed at St Helens.

34 unanswered aggregate of points scored against us in the opening 25 minutes of rugby in both half’s.

Utterly disgraceful. Pathetic even.
The right side defence frailties that was blown out by Salford and jumped on by every team we’ve played since, has been a go to shambles all season and not addressed.

In attack the only player positive 100% attitude today was from Hayes King and Currie.

The most disappointing is Thewlis, who suddenly has lost his mojo. Never backing himself down the wing. He was a favourite of mine. This season, he’s gone, one great try against London!

A reality check Wire…you’re nowhere near where you think you are.

The only team positive in the whole game from Wire, was they at least found away to get back into the game and put themselves in a position to win it.'"

So just to be clear, we now aren’t going to win everything this year?
I think your reaction shows you have been expecting too much too soon

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Quote: rubber duckie "Ratchford 18th man'"

Nicholson.'"


For some reason Ratchford was replaced by Nicholson as 18th man according to commentator.

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An entertaining game. Some backbone shown. Pack needs bolstering with some big bodies. Plenty to work on and remember we are building from a very low base. We have got into the poor state over years, will take a few seasons to get out of it.

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