That was a shocking performance we just looked clueless on the whole and lacking the determination to battle it out for the win,we lost the collision in attack and defence too often

We're all angry right now and things are not looking great right now it's times like this that too their coaches are able to identify and solve the problems and turn around the form and get.back to winning ways.

Congratulations to the two wingers both have had a great game and if can continue will leave wane with a tough desision when people come back from injuries

On our side Livette had a good game in a beaten team tom lineham is starting to look like a winger, one who is in desperate need of a centre who can create something and give him some space he created and scored a try and put in some work in defence and driving the ball in early, looks a completely different player from last season

The manner of our defeat is concerning this does not look like a team and does not look like a group of players that are capable of doing what smith is asking of them or they just don't buy into what he is saying. We're not blessed with briers monas hodgeson in the team who can read the game and have the ability to play whats in front of them.

Hill n ratchford cannot come back fast enough and hopefully we can remain relatively injury free as we don't seem to have great cover in some positions

Someone tell me when we are going to get our first points of the season? Because I can't see where the first win is coming from.

The backline is as bad as I can ever remember. The halves are shocking. Brown is a total disaster of a signing. Gidley is finished. Westwood is finished. Russell has no positional sense at all. Evans is woeful. Simms is poor. Blyth is NOT super league standard.

No pace in the backs, no grunt in the pack.

We will be playing in the middle 8's at the end of the regular season.

Truly awful.

Thanks for the memories Tony but it is time to go.

Need a change NOW

Alfie for coach

Agree Re Lineham Dessie, he was pretty much my only plus point,im starting to really like the flying pig.

Depressingly poor. We have gone from the Broncos game where we had 100% completion rate to something like 60 in this match. Poor decisions, trying to push the game at the wrong time, offloads in our own 20m, it all smacks of desperation.
I don't understand why we are playing Matty, and why bring Evans on from the bench.

shuffling deckchairs on the Titanic

Worst I've seen us play in a long long time.

There are players in that pitch who have no business being there based on that. Blythe & Russell particularly poor.

Forget all the hype about Leeds etc. That team will not trouble the playoffs unless something changes quickly. Wigan played ok... Honestly they didn't have to play well to make us look poor.

It is patently obvious that matty Russell ( one trick pony) and Ryhs Evans (said from day one , didn't see anything in him) are not of the required standard. Not sure having both hughes and westernan lends enough menace in attack or weight. Westwood coming to an end, love to sign kirmond from Wakefield taking over his role

Chris Hill and Ben Currie. Literally no one else.

Trust me be right.

Clark scares me too, but only when he plays behind a much stronger pack than we saw yesterday.

That's that harsh reality really for us..... Hill, Currie (who is out all season), Clark...... Possibly Ratchford... Savelio has looked ok... Hughes/cooper will do a job.

The rest are either bang average, over the hill or not good enough.... big rebuilding job for the next guy.... which we shouldn't be saying really with the amount of money that has been spent.

I think the word should be SQUANDERED, not spent.

Westerman only turned up once or twice a season frustrating cause he can be excellent but totally inconsistent I thought T smith would get better out of him but it appears not tbh Lineman is not the best listener either and although hes a danger in attack god he leeks points, he is a really nice lad though so I hope it goes well for him

Obviously you watch the team every week and I don't, but on paper I think your starting pack looks very decent. They were just asked to do too much yesterday with not enough punch on the bench. Hill will clearly make a difference, and plenty of Wigan fans were sorry to see Crosby go.

Think you're probably right about your backs, who don't look that threatening, but even there you've got the likes of Ratchford missing, who'd easily get into most SL teams. Can't see you challenging for the LLS after the start you've made, but with decent look with injuries, I still expect Wire to be as tough a prospect as anyone when we get towards knockout rugby.