did paul cullen invent that one

Fully agree.
JJB should have been yellowed for the chicken wing tackle.

Graham is a fantastic player who had a right to be well-miffed with what went on.

Obviously hacked off with some of his own teammates.

Should have shaken hands at the end but imo I'd have jim in our team any day.

He's the best young prop by far.

Spot on. That chicken wing tackle was bang out of order and I can see why it was still on his mind after the hooter. When he was on the ground and JJB was trying to rip his arm out of its socket you could imagine him thinking "these arn't the rules".

Is this Tony P the prop who is amongst the top try scorers, the top meter makers ( and top tackle breakers in the league with superior stats to Morley. Yeah, he's crap.

At least Wilkin and Senior shook hands at the end, good sportmanship

I'll go with my eyes thanks. Big games, does he roll his sleeves up, does he 'eck. Where was he last night, or the semi final.

It's one thing killing Castleford another making your mark last night.

I think that's why we all respect Graham, when it's tough, he gets better, he grows. He comes up with plays at key times, he lifts his side. Sadly, 'Tony P' doesn't.

Check Morley in the final, that's what you want.

which are biased

Last time I looked props are there to make yards, tackles and breaks and Tony P is better at that. The other nice to haves like scoring, assisting, not conceeding penalties he is also better at. You can hide away from the facts if you want thats up to you. Im not bagging Morley in any way he is superb but I am educating you that Tony P is not a crap player. Crap players do not feature high in all of those stats.

so he made 2500 yards against Cas, scored 12 trys, made his assist, his 60 odd tackle busts, all his offloads and made his 500 plus tackles then hasnt done anything else all season? Doesnt sound right, does it. Perhaps his good work ha been spread quite evenly throughout the season with some greag games, some good ones and the odd poor one.

Are you implying Puletua is having a better season than Morley?

I don't think anyone would suggest that with a straight face.

Good player Puletua but the quality is slowly being stripped away from around him and the likes of Graham. If these youngsters they are banging on about are any good, the Saints dynasty could carry on for another 10 years. It not...

No i am implying that if he is a prop and he makes more yards, tackles, yards per carry, offloads while missing less tackles, making more tackle busts then he can not be crap if Morley is not crap. Morley can not be very good / great and Pulutua be crap if he does all those better. It the usual case of opposition fans looking stupid by underrating players from other teams that they would be raving about if they played for us.

correct, and Im not doing that.

I thought the same thing. Would have been straight off in any amateur game.

The touchie couldn't have made it any clearer for Bentham, could he? I suppose he could have saidcontact send him off with the face. By the way, Phil. You clearly must send him off. Now. Red card. Out of the pocket, in Senior's face. Send him off'.

It would have been better for Senior had he carted him, I suspect the imminent ban will be worse as a result.

Underrating him, underrating him. Are you having a laugh. Folk wanted to see him in the SL dream team for goodness sake, pretty much on the back of 4 Tries at Castleford. His stats will be decent as he's in a side that's been largely dominant this year. I'll maintain, big games, arm wrestle, all those silly terms, I've not seen your 'Tony P' step upto the plate like others have, ie, Graham, Morley.

In Cricket, folk talk about averages, but folk normally want to interrogate the stats further. When did he get his runs, were they match winning runs, under pressure runs, or runs when his side was dominant. From what I've seen he looks quality when all is going well, and crap when it's sleeve roll up time, which is generally where the best earn their reputation.

I wouldn't swap any of Cooper, Morley or Carvell for him.