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Quote: Ian [77] ""You are talking utter balls and you know it. And no one gives a shiny one what your first sport is.'"


That bit doesn`t suprise me one bit coming from you as you seem to think that you are some some sort of representative of your cliquey mates on here, the spokesperson so to speak that when he speaks its the casting word. icon_lol.gif Its comedy to be honest, you come across as the usual keyboard gobe that this forum has in abundance. icon_wink.gif

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[quote="Susan":1cwsq9hj]I've had enough, lets not go down the shouting for the coaches head route, Brians done a fantastic job. He took the club over in dificult circumstances and the team punched well above there weight in the play offs. We've got to be realistic, our glory days have gone, we're no longer a Saints, Leeds or a Warrington.[/quote:1cwsq9hj] [img:1cwsq9hj]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/wires4eva/MikeGregory.jpg[/img:1cwsq9hj]:19801.gif



Quote: The Angry Pirate "I think this is what most non-fans don't get about F1.....

Look, Hamilton may be a good driver, but ultimately the fact he is in the best car is the major factor, so why all the glory for Swiss Lewis? (or whoever happens to win).

Let's be honest, however good Swiss Lewis is, if me and him had a race, and he was in a Ford Fiesta, and I was in a Porsche, I reckon I'd whoop his candyass, which would make me World Champ??..
Erm, the Ferrari has been the better car over the season, consistently taking poles, fastest laps etc icon_surprised.gifops: . Where the Merc is better is in the wet or certainly Lewis was. If Schumacher or even Alonso had been in the Ferrari, who would have you put your money on icon_rolleyes.gif .

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Quote: wire forever "Erm, the Ferrari has been the better car over the season, consistently taking poles, fastest laps etc
But again, it comes down to the car....If ALL the drivers were in the same car would Swiss Lewis still come out on top??

Damon Hill once won the title, beating Schumacher, yet let's be honest, Hill wasn't fit to wipe the German's backside....it was down to the car.

My main gripe isn't against Swiss Lewis personally, its the superstar status these guys attain, when its actually the car doing all the work.

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Quote: wire forever "If you know about F1 then you will know how much time Glock lost in the final lap due to him being on dry tyres when it was ing down. he lost 18 seconds on dry tyres, nothing to do with he let Hamilton through. Glocks team chose the wrong option. If it had not rained again, Hamilton would have cruised home. Hamilton did nearly blow it, god knows how much pressure he was under to bring that home today but he did it in the end.

Well done Lewis
Yes your talking of small margins here and i mean small margins, Hamilton was within 2 corners of losing the world championship when he should never have been in that position in the first place. Its no coincedence that for 2 years running now he has almost managed to blow the world title twice, my main point isn`t about Glock as a driver or his teams tactics. The point is about Hamilton, he takes risks when he shouldn`t and it gets him into trouble, today he almost came to blows with another car after an overtaking maneuver that he didn`t need to risk at the time, if that had been a more aggressive driver like Alonso that he was trying to overtake then he would have been forced off the racing line and into the really wet part of the track and more than likely off the track itself and probably out of the world title race.

He should never have been in the position where with just 2 corners to go of the grand prix that he was throwing away the world title at the time, his team and car are far too good to be in that position, all he had toi do was finish 5th andf he should have comfortably done that in a McLaren.

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Quote: The Angry Pirate "I think this is what most non-fans don't get about F1.....

Look, Hamilton may be a good driver, but ultimately the fact he is in the best car is the major factor, so why all the glory for Swiss Lewis? (or whoever happens to win).

Let's be honest, however good Swiss Lewis is, if me and him had a race, and he was in a Ford Fiesta, and I was in a Porsche, I reckon I'd whoop his candyass, which would make me World Champ??..
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Quote: TrentBarrett "Heikki kovalainen has been in the same car as Lewis and has been poor this season, you obviously don't watch the sport so don't make ridicules comments on it you just look stupid.'"


The same car??...Bloomin' heck, I ain't surprised he's struggled if him and Swiss Lewis have been riding tandem all year!!

Big kudos to Hamilton then for taking the title...I never realised the true extent of his disadvantage, compared to Ferrari.

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Quote: The Angry Pirate "But again, it comes down to the car....If ALL the drivers were in the same car would Swiss Lewis still come out on top??

Damon Hill once won the title, beating Schumacher, yet let's be honest, Hill wasn't fit to wipe the German's backside....it was down to the car.

My main gripe isn't against Swiss Lewis personally, its the superstar status these guys attain, when its actually the car doing all the work.'"


Then how come 2 guys from the same team with the same car can finish so far apart in a race.
The car is only as good as its driver.

Well done Louis

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[quote="Susan":1cwsq9hj]I've had enough, lets not go down the shouting for the coaches head route, Brians done a fantastic job. He took the club over in dificult circumstances and the team punched well above there weight in the play offs. We've got to be realistic, our glory days have gone, we're no longer a Saints, Leeds or a Warrington.[/quote:1cwsq9hj] [img:1cwsq9hj]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/wires4eva/MikeGregory.jpg[/img:1cwsq9hj]:19801.gif



Quote: The Angry Pirate "But again, it comes down to the car....If ALL the drivers were in the same car would Swiss Lewis still come out on top??

Damon Hill once won the title, beating Schumacher, yet let's be honest, Hill wasn't fit to wipe the German's backside....it was down to the car.
My main gripe isn't against Swiss Lewis personally, its the superstar status these guys attain, when its actually the car doing all the work.'"


Utter bo$$ocks. if so, what happened to Kovalainen? If the car did all the work, we would have Ferrari's & Mercs 1-2 every race. Kovalainen has done sod all in that car so the driver must have some input. What about Alonso? Pound for pound, he is the best driver out there, give him a decent car and unfortunately, he will blow them all away. Alonso has being getting consistent results in a crap renault and his team mate cant even make the top 10 shoot outs for pole usually. The driver has a big say in the car - he sets the thing up for one!

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Quote: wire forever "Utter bo$$ocks. if so, what happened to Kovalainen? If the car did all the work, we would have Ferrari's & Mercs 1-2 every race. Kovalainen has done sod all in that car so the driver must have some input. What about Alonso? Pound for pound, he is the best driver out there, give him a decent car and unfortunately, he will blow them all away. Alonso has being getting consistent results in a crap renault and his team mate cant even make the top 10 shoot outs for pole usually. The driver has a big say in the car - he sets the thing up for one!'"


So Alonso is actually the real Champ??...I'm confused... icon_confused.gif

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Quote: The Angry Pirate "So Alonso is actually the real Champ??...I'm confused...
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Quote: The Angry Pirate "I think this is what most non-fans don't get about F1.....

Look, Hamilton may be a good driver, but ultimately the fact he is in the best car is the major factor, so why all the glory for Swiss Lewis? (or whoever happens to win).

Let's be honest, however good Swiss Lewis is, if me and him had a race, and he was in a Ford Fiesta, and I was in a Porsche, I reckon I'd whoop his candyass, which would make me World Champ??..
what utter toss. put most drivers in that car and they would do well yes, but the input from the driver is crucial, can't be doing with all this Hamilton hating. Never in happy are we. Well done Lewis, future legend.

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[quote="Susan":1cwsq9hj]I've had enough, lets not go down the shouting for the coaches head route, Brians done a fantastic job. He took the club over in dificult circumstances and the team punched well above there weight in the play offs. We've got to be realistic, our glory days have gone, we're no longer a Saints, Leeds or a Warrington.[/quote:1cwsq9hj] [img:1cwsq9hj]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/wires4eva/MikeGregory.jpg[/img:1cwsq9hj]:19801.gif



Quote: The Angry Pirate "So Alonso is actually the real Champ??...I'm confused...
Doesnt take much with your obvious lack of knowledge postings on F1. Cant believe you try and kick a British champion down before the ink is dry on the records of it.

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Quote: TrentBarrett "Heikki kovalainen has been in the same car as Lewis and has been poor this season, you obviously don't watch the sport so don't make ridicules comments on it you just look stupid.'"


And anyone who watches and follows F1 on a regular basis knows how poor a driver Heikki Kovalainen is given the equipment he has at his mercy, he should be getting consistent podium finishes where as sometimes you think he has stopped at a roadside cafe for a bacon sarnie given his times.

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Quote: wire forever "Doesnt take much with your obvious lack of knowledge postings on F1. Cant believe you try and kick a British champion down before the ink is dry on the records of it.'"


Sorry mate...it isn't a personal attack on Swiss Lewis, but I just find the sport very very tedious.

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Quote: The Angry Pirate "Sorry mate...it isn't a personal attack on Swiss Lewis, but I just find the sport very very tedious.'"
How can you say that if you have never got into it and got behind a team or driver you just have hatred on a English world champion is it jealousy? or just ignorance?

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